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Old 11-16-2007, 05:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm sure you are familiar with the Salem witch trials. There never were any actual witches. Just deadly paranoia about them. Calling someone a witch was enough to have that person brought to trial, and those trials weren't too fair, putting it mildly.

I have to imagine the same environment exists as regards gay people in countries like Iran. Someone telling the right lie in the right ear would be enough to get you seriously investigated, I imagine.

Brrr. Shiver down my spine thinking about that.
With video and cell phone records even in Iran, I would think it's a slight more advanced than just finger pointing like the witch-hunts.

People are gay. Not a good comparison honestly.

I think that imagination of yours that has you shivering is a bit overactive. I mean honestly, if homosexuals are 5% of the population, they'd have a line of them waiting to hang. I have seen some news, but nothing like you are suggesting.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:57 PM   #22 (permalink)
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People are gay. Not a good comparison honestly.
A government sanctioning the killing people they are scared of because they are (or are just suspected of being) different? Nope, no similarities there!

Just as I believe dishonest people will use ENDA to claim to have been fired for being gay (whether or not that was true, and whether or not they ARE gay), I believe that in a repressive culture like Iran's, dishonest people will use the system there to get revenge on enemies, business rivals, etc., by telling the authorities they are gay.

Sure, it's possible I'm being alarmist, but you have to admit the possibility is not far-fetched.

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Old 11-16-2007, 06:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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A government sanctioning the killing people they are scared of because they are (or are just suspected of being) different? Nope, no similarities there!

There are huge differences that you refuse to acknowledge. The differences between the persecution of witches and homosexuals as is vast as the ones dealing with those two things and race. They are alike only that they were all persecuted. The reasons for the persecution are vastly different.


Just as I believe dishonest people will use ENDA to claim to have been fired for being gay (whether or not that was true, and whether or not they ARE gay), I believe that in a repressive culture like Iran's, dishonest people will use the system there to get revenge on enemies, business rivals, etc., by telling the authorities they are gay.

The system is old. But I haven't heard of a mass killing of homosexual people in Iran. Especially under the premise that you are worried about.


Sure, it's possible I'm being alarmist, but you have to admit the possibility is not far-fetched.

No, it's pretty far fetched IMHO. From the news reports I've read online, most people "convicted" under this have been seen "being" homosexual. As with the DADT alarmist, I have yet to hear about a non-homosexual harmed under these laws.


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Old 11-17-2007, 05:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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A government sanctioning the killing people they are scared of because they are (or are just suspected of being) different?

When has the Iranian government said they are "scared" of homosexuals?

Did you just make that up?




Sure, it's possible I'm being alarmist,
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