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Old 11-17-2007, 07:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Buy Microsoft Shares to Harm Gays!
Pastor Calls On Conservatives To Buy Microsoft Shares To Topple Gay Rights Rule by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff
Posted: November 17, 2007 - 4:00 pm ET
(Seattle, Washington) Gay rights foe Rev. Ken Hutcherson is calling on religious conservatives to buy stock in Microsoft so they can force a shareholders vote on the company's policy that provides equality for gay workers.
Hutcherson, whose megachurch is a stone's throw from Microsoft headquarters in Redmond, Washington, caused a stir at the company's recent annual meeting, demanding the world's biggest computer company abandon its LGBT worker policy.
Microsoft's directors urged shareholders to reject the attempt, and the issue failed to get enough support for a vote, but Hutcherson is undeterred.
Following the meeting he told the British newspaper The Daily Telegraph that he intends to keep lobbying and will urge Christian and Jewish conservatives to buy shares in the company so they can vote.
He also told the paper that Microsoft is only the first public company he intends to target.
"There are 256 Fortune 500 companies alone pouring millions upon millions of dollars into pushing the homosexual agenda," he told The Daily Telegraph.
"I consider myself a warrior for Christ. Microsoft don't scare me. I got God with me.
As for any comparison with LGBT rights and civil rights for African Americans, Hutcherson says there is none.
"How many homosexuals have you ever seen had to ride on the back of a bus? I haven't seen one. I know that many blacks have in the past.
"I've never seen an ex-black. Michael Jackson couldn't even achieve that. But I've seen ex-gays. We minister to them every day. We talk to them about how to get out of that sin."
Hutcherson has been battling Microsoft and the state of Washington over LGBT rights for two years.
When a gay rights bill was before the legislature in 2005 Hutcherson met with company executives and threatened a national boycott of the computer giant if it did not disavow itself from the gay rights bill.
Microsoft earlier had announced its support for the legislation saying it would help attract talented workers to the state.
Following Hutcherson's threat the company distanced itself from the bill and the measure lost by a single vote in the Senate (story) sparking outrage from Microsoft's LGBT workers and gay consumers around the world.
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer then sent an email to employees claiming that the company had made a decision before the legislative session began that it should to narrow its focus on a shorter list of issues directly affecting the business. (story)
But, that explanation, in light of details of the meeting between Microsoft and Hutcherson, failed to appease LGBT advocates. Even an attempt by Microsoft chair Bill Gates to quiet opposition failed.
"Next time this one comes around, we'll see," Gates told the Seattle Times a few weeks later. "We certainly have a lot of employees who sent us mail. Next time it comes around that'll be a major factor for us to take into consideration."
When the storm showed no sign of abating Microsoft came full circle, announcing that it would once again support LGBT civil rights. (story)
The measure was reintroduced in 2006 and passed.
Hutcherson then began a petition drive to force a statewide vote on repealing the rights law but failed to get enough signatures to put the issue on the ballot.


This isn't, you notice, about gays marrying...it's about ALL gay rights.

Anybody else hear the rattle of cattle cars? I wonder how he feels about the nooses that have been hung in trees outside blacks homes? Does he realize those KKK'ers think they have God on their side, too?
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Pastor Calls On Conservatives To Buy Microsoft Shares To Topple Gay Rights Rule by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff
Posted: November 17, 2007 - 4:00 pm ET
(Seattle, Washington) Gay rights foe Rev. Ken Hutcherson is calling on religious conservatives to buy stock in Microsoft so they can force a shareholders vote on the company's policy that provides equality for gay workers.
Hutcherson, whose megachurch is a stone's throw from Microsoft headquarters in Redmond, Washington, caused a stir at the company's recent annual meeting, demanding the world's biggest computer company abandon its LGBT worker policy.
Microsoft's directors urged shareholders to reject the attempt, and the issue failed to get enough support for a vote, but Hutcherson is undeterred.
Following the meeting he told the British newspaper The Daily Telegraph that he intends to keep lobbying and will urge Christian and Jewish conservatives to buy shares in the company so they can vote.
He also told the paper that Microsoft is only the first public company he intends to target.
"There are 256 Fortune 500 companies alone pouring millions upon millions of dollars into pushing the homosexual agenda," he told The Daily Telegraph.
"I consider myself a warrior for Christ. Microsoft don't scare me. I got God with me.
As for any comparison with LGBT rights and civil rights for African Americans, Hutcherson says there is none.
"How many homosexuals have you ever seen had to ride on the back of a bus? I haven't seen one. I know that many blacks have in the past.
"I've never seen an ex-black. Michael Jackson couldn't even achieve that. But I've seen ex-gays. We minister to them every day. We talk to them about how to get out of that sin."
Hutcherson has been battling Microsoft and the state of Washington over LGBT rights for two years.
When a gay rights bill was before the legislature in 2005 Hutcherson met with company executives and threatened a national boycott of the computer giant if it did not disavow itself from the gay rights bill.
Microsoft earlier had announced its support for the legislation saying it would help attract talented workers to the state.
Following Hutcherson's threat the company distanced itself from the bill and the measure lost by a single vote in the Senate (story) sparking outrage from Microsoft's LGBT workers and gay consumers around the world.
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer then sent an email to employees claiming that the company had made a decision before the legislative session began that it should to narrow its focus on a shorter list of issues directly affecting the business. (story)
But, that explanation, in light of details of the meeting between Microsoft and Hutcherson, failed to appease LGBT advocates. Even an attempt by Microsoft chair Bill Gates to quiet opposition failed.
"Next time this one comes around, we'll see," Gates told the Seattle Times a few weeks later. "We certainly have a lot of employees who sent us mail. Next time it comes around that'll be a major factor for us to take into consideration."
When the storm showed no sign of abating Microsoft came full circle, announcing that it would once again support LGBT civil rights. (story)
The measure was reintroduced in 2006 and passed.
Hutcherson then began a petition drive to force a statewide vote on repealing the rights law but failed to get enough signatures to put the issue on the ballot.


This isn't, you notice, about gays marrying...it's about ALL gay rights.

Anybody else hear the rattle of cattle cars? I wonder how he feels about the nooses that have been hung in trees outside blacks homes? Does he realize those KKK'ers think they have God on their side, too?
Wait I thought you were happy??

"yes - I do love my life - I think that's what so irritating to some bigots - they just HATE that there are gay people who are in love and happier than the bigots ever dream of being."
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Pastor Calls On Conservatives To Buy Microsoft Shares To Topple Gay Rights Rule by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff
Posted: November 17, 2007 - 4:00 pm ET
(Seattle, Washington) Gay rights foe Rev. Ken Hutcherson is calling on religious conservatives to buy stock in Microsoft so they can force a shareholders vote on the company's policy that provides equality for gay workers.
Hutcherson, whose megachurch is a stone's throw from Microsoft headquarters in Redmond, Washington, caused a stir at the company's recent annual meeting, demanding the world's biggest computer company abandon its LGBT worker policy.
Microsoft's directors urged shareholders to reject the attempt, and the issue failed to get enough support for a vote, but Hutcherson is undeterred.
Following the meeting he told the British newspaper The Daily Telegraph that he intends to keep lobbying and will urge Christian and Jewish conservatives to buy shares in the company so they can vote.
He also told the paper that Microsoft is only the first public company he intends to target.
"There are 256 Fortune 500 companies alone pouring millions upon millions of dollars into pushing the homosexual agenda," he told The Daily Telegraph.
"I consider myself a warrior for Christ. Microsoft don't scare me. I got God with me.
As for any comparison with LGBT rights and civil rights for African Americans, Hutcherson says there is none.
"How many homosexuals have you ever seen had to ride on the back of a bus? I haven't seen one. I know that many blacks have in the past.
"I've never seen an ex-black. Michael Jackson couldn't even achieve that. But I've seen ex-gays. We minister to them every day. We talk to them about how to get out of that sin."
Hutcherson has been battling Microsoft and the state of Washington over LGBT rights for two years.
When a gay rights bill was before the legislature in 2005 Hutcherson met with company executives and threatened a national boycott of the computer giant if it did not disavow itself from the gay rights bill.
Microsoft earlier had announced its support for the legislation saying it would help attract talented workers to the state.
Following Hutcherson's threat the company distanced itself from the bill and the measure lost by a single vote in the Senate (story) sparking outrage from Microsoft's LGBT workers and gay consumers around the world.
Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer then sent an email to employees claiming that the company had made a decision before the legislative session began that it should to narrow its focus on a shorter list of issues directly affecting the business. (story)
But, that explanation, in light of details of the meeting between Microsoft and Hutcherson, failed to appease LGBT advocates. Even an attempt by Microsoft chair Bill Gates to quiet opposition failed.
"Next time this one comes around, we'll see," Gates told the Seattle Times a few weeks later. "We certainly have a lot of employees who sent us mail. Next time it comes around that'll be a major factor for us to take into consideration."
When the storm showed no sign of abating Microsoft came full circle, announcing that it would once again support LGBT civil rights. (story)
The measure was reintroduced in 2006 and passed.
Hutcherson then began a petition drive to force a statewide vote on repealing the rights law but failed to get enough signatures to put the issue on the ballot.


This isn't, you notice, about gays marrying...it's about ALL gay rights.

Anybody else hear the rattle of cattle cars? I wonder how he feels about the nooses that have been hung in trees outside blacks homes? Does he realize those KKK'ers think they have God on their side, too?
Maybe we need to buy up the shares...........you know what they say about the pink $$$$$
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Oh, I'm not really concerned about this ... I don't think it's going to go that far (they already tried this once).

However, it does show what happens when the government decides that some law-abiding citizens are not worthy of the same rights and privileges as other citizens. It gives people like this hate filled "Christian" leader tacit approval to actually try to hurt gay people in the most insidious ways.

In fact, unless their m.o. has changed since I put them on ignore, even the bigots on this forum pretty much use "the laws say you can't marry" as the reason gays shouldn't have the right to marry. There was even one jerk who used to say that everybody in America can get married - as long as they 'qualify." I think that's what they used to say about blacks and voting, wasn't it? It's transparent and sophomoric rhetoric which they seem to think gives some semblance of validity to irrational bigotry.
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There was even one jerk who used to say that everybody in America can get married - as long as they 'qualify." I think that's what they used to say about blacks and voting, wasn't it?

Sounds like one of the Grand whoevers in my small town klan group when I was a kid
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There was even one jerk who used to say that everybody in America can get married - as long as they 'qualify." I think that's what they used to say about blacks and voting, wasn't it?

Sounds like one of the Grand whoevers in my small town klan group when I was a kid
That was shameful

Thank God America's shameful apartheid past is over
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[quote=garysher;149220]That was shameful

Thank God America's shameful apartheid past is over
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It will never be over. For some reason Americans have to have some minority group to pick on.Guess its the American way.
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Not all Americans - just the ones with the need to be in control...and run for office.

The (majority) who have a live-and-let-live attitude about life are usually not the type people who are busting to 'be in charge' and run for political office and make a career out of legislating others' lives.
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Not all Americans - just the ones with the need to be in control...and run for office.

The (majority) who have a live-and-let-live attitude about life are usually not the type people who are busting to 'be in charge' and run for political office and make a career out of legislating others' lives.
The "majority" also thinks there is something "off" about homosexuality as well. And that's not "Americans" that pretty much refers to the human species.
There will always be people that feel this way mainly because there is something "off" about homosexuality.
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Oh, I'm not really concerned about this ... I don't think it's going to go that far (they already tried this once).

However, it does show what happens when the government decides that some law-abiding citizens are not worthy of the same rights and privileges as other citizens. It gives people like this hate filled "Christian" leader tacit approval to actually try to hurt gay people in the most insidious ways.

In fact, unless their m.o. has changed since I put them on ignore, even the bigots on this forum pretty much use "the laws say you can't marry" as the reason gays shouldn't have the right to marry. There was even one jerk who used to say that everybody in America can get married - as long as they 'qualify." I think that's what they used to say about blacks and voting, wasn't it? It's transparent and sophomoric rhetoric which they seem to think gives some semblance of validity to irrational bigotry.
Considering sodomy, which any homosexual sexual contact is, was against the law in many states until recently, homosexual unions weren't "law abiding". That's not a Christian thing either, that's plain old common sense, sodomy type laws were pretty common worldwide regardless of religion. So that's just BS.

Another thing that was worldwide is that man-woman was the basis of marriage. The reason is obvious why and I hope I don't have to explain.

The laws in this country that you say forbade blacks from marrying whites were actually written to forbid whites from marrying outside their own race. Never mind it was the invading white race that brought the black people here in the first place. It's not like the U.S. was a tourist destination for black people to come and snatch up a little white hottie and take her back to Africa.

And of course we know restrictions on voting here in the U.S. wasn't limited to black people. No one could vote but white men.
IMHO not allowing black people to vote pales in comparison to slavery. But that's just me.

Homosexual "marriage" is a sham. There is no natural reason for a homosexual union to be called a "marriage". The sex is has no purpose or reason and the union is sterile. There simply is no biologic need for it. Should it be illegal to be "gay"? Nope. But they in no shape or form should be allowed to call the union a "marriage".

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