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Old 11-23-2007, 05:42 PM   #121 (permalink)
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the only mention at all is a section of a scripture about women giving over their natural ways ... but that's not about lesbians, as it's not natural for a lesbian to be with a man. That's just about straight women doing it together either for exotic titillation or to excite a man.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:02 PM   #122 (permalink)
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the only mention at all is a section of a scripture about women giving over their natural ways ... but that's not about lesbians, as it's not natural for a lesbian to be with a man. That's just about straight women doing it together either for exotic titillation or to excite a man.
Actually, it's 'turning from their natural use to unnatural.'

Notice the word USE. The passage does not define women's sexuality at all, only as it relates to male sexuality. And UNNATURAL could be defined as a whole host of things.
Old 11-23-2007, 06:05 PM   #123 (permalink)
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looks like us ladies are off the hook lol
Old 11-23-2007, 06:10 PM   #124 (permalink)
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looks like us ladies are off the hook lol
Well, since I'm not a Christian, it wasn't my issue anyway.
Old 11-23-2007, 06:45 PM   #125 (permalink)
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An example of your ignorance on the substance of the debate in order to sneak in unsubstantiated ad hominems. You said your mind was closed yourself, that you're unmovable on the subject.

Your whole last post was unsubstantiated. In fact, you haven't substantiated ANYTHING since we started this discussion and have repeatedly lied as well. I'd leave it as well if I were you.
I don't think it matters what publications I cite, you'll always be closed minded and only interested in ad hominem; an unscrupulous interest in dehumanizing your intellectual counterparts, perhaps acquired from your bigotry and homophobia. Those two characteristics coupled gives me enough justification to end debate, and enough that I don't need to prove anything to you.

I'm done, *sigh*.
There's the name calling again and the slinking away. At least you ARE consistent. And even when I offered to check out some of all these "publications" you refuse to show them. THAT sir is more telling than any lie you have told so far.

G'day sir....again.
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as a by line... i am sorry to hear you have kidney problems, i hope you stay strong and get well soon.
I'm not debating you since we already agree for the most part. That ain't no friggin fun.

I've been on dialysis for 17 years. I'm fine. Thanks tho'.
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There's the name calling again and the slinking away. At least you ARE consistent. And even when I offered to check out some of all these "publications" you refuse to show them. THAT sir is more telling than any lie you have told so far.

G'day sir....again.
You've actually offered no such thing, but it is your habit to be ignorant of the substance of the debate (either that or consistently lie and insult, which you feel so liberally when labeling others unsubstantially).

But now that you're specifically showing interest in me listing some publications, I should leave the debate over to Doris Y. Wilkinson who wrote an article that I recommend as a good starting point. Read "Sexual Identity: Western Imperialism?" to dispel some outright fallacious misconceptions that you hold.

Once you're cured of your ignorance and no longer have an interest in mindless unsubstantiated ad hominem, perhaps then I will continue on the debate of gay marriage.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:53 PM   #128 (permalink)
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damn, you're good

I love watching somebody put a know-it-all in his place

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Old 11-23-2007, 10:09 PM   #129 (permalink)
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You've actually offered no such thing, but it is your habit to be ignorant of the substance of the debate (either that or consistently lie and insult, which you feel so liberally when labeling others unsubstantially).

But now that you're specifically showing interest in me listing some publications, I should leave the debate over to Doris Y. Wilkinson who wrote an article that I recommend as a good starting point. Read "Sexual Identity: Western Imperialism?" to dispel some outright fallacious misconceptions that you hold.

Does Doris imply that western imperialism is somehow a rationalisation for homosexuality?




Once you're cured of your ignorance and no longer have an interest in mindless unsubstantiated ad hominem, perhaps then I will continue on the debate of gay marriage.

Kat, other than the fact that it happens to align with your opinion, why would you think that describing people as "bigots" and "homophobes" isn't "mindless unsubstantiated ad hominem" ??
Old 11-23-2007, 10:11 PM   #130 (permalink)
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the only mention at all is a section of a scripture about women giving over their natural ways ... but that's not about lesbians, as it's not natural for a lesbian to be with a man. That's just about straight women doing it together either for exotic titillation or to excite a man.
The disingenuous way you choose to interpret God's word is quite amazing!

Is this the MO of the UCC??
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