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Old 11-22-2007, 01:42 PM   #61 (permalink)
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See, the difference is, a true Christian recognizes lust as a sin. Even though they may still lust, they are in repentance of there sin.
So the lustful Christian person repents, and never lusts again? Of course not, as you said. That is something that happens again and again, all life long.

No difference between such a person (which is nearly EVERY person) and a gay person. The gay person could abstain from sexual contact for life, but it wouldn't alter the lusts in his heart.

Again, if a gay person cannot be a Christian because being gay is a sin, then a lustful person (which is nearly EVERY person) cannot be a Christian because being lustful is a sin.

The idea that lust is OK and homosexuality is not is just self-deception.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:23 PM   #62 (permalink)
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The idea that 2000 years of gained information and knowledge and wisdom about homosexuality should be discounted because King James was trying to save his throne from a homosexual (and fortune-telling!) relative while the translation of The Bible was taking place is absurd.

It's as if you would take the God given gift of ability to gain knowledge and spit it back in the face of God saying 'no thanks - don't need none of dat dere knowlidge stuff'
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:29 PM   #63 (permalink)
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So the lustful Christian person repents, and never lusts again? Of course not, as you said. That is something that happens again and again, all life long.

No difference between such a person (which is nearly EVERY person) and a gay person. The gay person could abstain from sexual contact for life, but it wouldn't alter the lusts in his heart.

Again, if a gay person cannot be a Christian because being gay is a sin, then a lustful person (which is nearly EVERY person) cannot be a Christian because being lustful is a sin.

The idea that lust is OK and homosexuality is not is just self-deception.
Neither lust nor homosexuality are "ok". To be willfully lustfull, without remorse, without repentence, would be just as bad as being willfully homosexual. One may struggle with lust, time and time again,but that means you must continue to repent, and try to turn from your sin. God doesnt expect you to be perfect, he just expects you to understand who you are, a sinner in need of salvation and repentance. He also expects you to understand who he is, truth. Folks like Trist here are willfully homosexual. They feel that homosexuality isnt a sin, and even if it is, they say screw God, they will do what they want to anyway. In direct defiance to God. Bottom line, you cant stay in direct willfull defiance of God, and his word, and still consider yourself a Christian. Well you can, but you would be wrong.
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The idea that 2000 years of gained information and knowledge and wisdom about homosexuality should be discounted because King James was trying to save his throne from a homosexual (and fortune-telling!) relative while the translation of The Bible was taking place is absurd.

It's as if you would take the God given gift of ability to gain knowledge and spit it back in the face of God saying 'no thanks - don't need none of dat dere knowlidge stuff'

Gained Knowledge and wisdom??? WTH are you talking about???


You spit in the face of God when you denie his words and warnings to you, just to fullfill your sexual desire. We are only here on this earth a short time, but our entire eternity depends on what we do here. Why anyone who professes to be a Christian would willfully shut out the word of God, cause it offends him, is insanity. Dont be offended by him, embrace him. Pick up your cross, and follow him. Give up you life for his name sake, and you will find it.
Old 11-22-2007, 04:46 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Gained Knowledge and wisdom??? WTH are you talking about???
spoken like the true illiterate, ignorant, know-it-all, wackjob religious zealot that you are.

WTH is gaining knowledge and wisdom?

LOL

why am I not surprised that you have no idea what that means

LOL
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spoken like the true illiterate, ignorant, know-it-all, wackjob religious zealot that you are.

WTH is gaining knowledge and wisdom?

LOL

why am I not surprised that you have no idea what that means

LOL


Ok lets take a look at the "knowledge and wisdom", brought to us by homosexuality. You represent less than 5 % of the population, yet have HALF of all Aids cases in the world. Drug and alcohol addiction is ramped in homosexuality, along with violence and suicide. Yea, thanks for all the knowledge and wisdom.

Ever hear of Sodom and Gamorra?
Old 11-22-2007, 05:17 PM   #67 (permalink)
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that's why I call you ignorant and illiterate

although it's true that in the USA, over half the cases of AIDS victims are gay, worldwide the vast majority are straight

ignorant and illiterate

what a combination

by the way - is that the same place as Gomorrah?
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:19 PM   #68 (permalink)
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that's why I call you ignorant and illiterate

although it's true that in the USA, over half the cases of AIDS victims are gay, worldwide the vast majority are straight

ignorant and illiterate

what a combination

by the way - is that the same place as Gomorrah?

WRONG, Try again.

Yea, same place.
Old 11-22-2007, 05:29 PM   #69 (permalink)
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that's why I call you ignorant and illiterate

although it's true that in the USA, over half the cases of AIDS victims are gay, worldwide the vast majority are straight

ignorant and illiterate

what a combination

by the way - is that the same place as Gomorrah?
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WRONG, Try again.

Yea, same place.

Which part is wrong?

Tristan is correct that in the USA, over half the cases of AIDS victims are gay, worldwide the vast majority are straight.

Is that what you are disagreeing with?
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Why does every D*** thread here end up about sex????? What goes on in my or your bedroom is not the topic here.I am sooooooooo sick and tired of reading about this sh**............we (at least I) are here to decuss politics and to hopefully be able to make a change in how the gov. treats all of us in one way or the other, but all I seam to see here is a bunch of people obsessed with sex.
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