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Old 11-21-2007, 09:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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3 sentenced in gay man's death
AP - 21.11.2007 01:05
3 sentenced in gay man's death on New York road

Three men who beat a gay man and chased him onto a road where he was struck by a car and was killed were sentenced to prison, prosecutors said. In what prosecutors called a hate-inspired robbery scheme, the men found Michael Sandy in an Internet chat room frequented by gay men, lured him out to New York's remote Plum Beach with a promise of a date and attacked him. Anthony Fortunato, 21, who had told jurors they should not convict him of a hate crime because he is gay, too, was sentenced to seven to 21 years in prison for second-degree manslaughter as a hate crime and attempted petit larceny. Prosecutors argued that under state hate crimes law, they did not have to prove that Sandy's attackers hated gay men _ only that they picked their victim because of his sexual orientation.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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AP - 21.11.2007 01:05
3 sentenced in gay man's death on New York road

Three men who beat a gay man and chased him onto a road where he was struck by a car and was killed were sentenced to prison, prosecutors said. In what prosecutors called a hate-inspired robbery scheme, the men found Michael Sandy in an Internet chat room frequented by gay men, lured him out to New York's remote Plum Beach with a promise of a date and attacked him. Anthony Fortunato, 21, who had told jurors they should not convict him of a hate crime because he is gay, too, was sentenced to seven to 21 years in prison for second-degree manslaughter as a hate crime and attempted petit larceny. Prosecutors argued that under state hate crimes law, they did not have to prove that Sandy's attackers hated gay men _ only that they picked their victim because of his sexual orientation.
Wow, what would they have gotten if the guy hadn't been gay? That sentence seems rather light. I think we discussed this before in one of the "hate crime" threads.
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Yes, this story was discussed previously.

Fx has made a convenient indexed folder of every thread here at the DtT that pertains to anything gay. He is really seeking some insights on this topic, to be sure.

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Old 11-21-2007, 11:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes, this story was discussed previously.

Fx has made a convenient indexed folder of every thread here at the DtT that pertains to anything gay. He is really seeking some insights on this topic, to be sure.

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Naa, I just remembered the guy saying he shouldn't be charged with a hate crime because he was gay. The site itself keeps things nicely indexed for me though so I don't have to remember stuff like that. All it takes is a search.
Old 11-21-2007, 12:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Fx has made a convenient indexed folder of every thread here at the DtT that pertains to anything gay. He is really seeking some insights on this topic, to be sure.

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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
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Well Tristan, we have all said it before...I mean, you and others here who are gay, have a vested interest in the threads that pertain to the gay community. What vested interest, praytell does Fxie have?

Obsessions Run Rampant among the straight men. Oh and yes, I do have a personal interest in the topic, though would otherwise for believing in civil rights for all law abiding citizens.

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Well Tristan, we have all said it before...I mean, you and others here who are gay, have a vested interest in the threads that pertain to the gay community. What vested interest, praytell does Fxie have?

Obsessions Run Rampant among the straight men. Oh and yes, I do have a personal interest in the topic, though would otherwise for believing in civil rights for all law abiding citizens.

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I have no vested interest. But when my son was born I was immensely happy in my job as a bill collector. This site goes a long way toward me flexing my old bill collector muscles. I thoroughly enjoy being an asshole.
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I have no vested interest. But when my son was born I was immensely happy in my job as a bill collector. This site goes a long way toward me flexing my old bill collector muscles. I thoroughly enjoy being an asshole.
The local cable company are looking for people to collect bills in the field, FX. Still game?
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The local cable company are looking for people to collect bills in the field, FX. Still game?
As soon as my son starts school, I'm all over it. One thing there's never a shortage of is jobs for professional assholes. It takes a special "abnormality" to enjoy calling people about the money they owe. Especially this time of year.
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As soon as my son starts school, I'm all over it. One thing there's never a shortage of is jobs for professional assholes. It takes a special "abnormality" to enjoy calling people about the money they owe. Especially this time of year.
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