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Old 11-25-2007, 06:23 PM   #121 (permalink)
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it makes you wonder about the kind of psyche that, on one hand, rants about how unnatural and disgusting homosexuality is - and then on the other hand, spend 12 or more hours a day trying to attract the attention of gay people to discuss gay sex (especially gay MALE sex).
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weird that isn't it........... s'funny cos i was thinking of getting a pin made that says yes i am and no you can't watch lol
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That is too funny gigg!!!

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I think if Gigg gets those pins, she needs to share them with us too...Cause seems to me, Gary and FX get off of watching anyone/everyone else 'doing it'...It's not limited to just our homosexual brothers and sisters...But to the hetrosexuals that support their rights too...
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:54 PM   #122 (permalink)
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it makes you wonder about the kind of psyche that, on one hand, rants about how unnatural and disgusting homosexuality is - and then on the other hand, spend 12 or more hours a day trying to attract the attention of gay people to discuss gay sex (especially gay MALE sex).
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weird that isn't it........... s'funny cos i was thinking of getting a pin made that says yes i am and no you can't watch lol

How strange.

I don't recall seeing anybody wanting to discuss gay sex on here.

Perhaps you'd care to provide links to those posts?

Unless of course you were lying. Or trolling.

Or both??
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Old 11-25-2007, 08:58 PM   #123 (permalink)
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12? Someone needs to learn how to do math.

And seems at the same time FX, you're basing your 'judgement' off of lack of knowledge about any of the circumstances surrounding so-called 'failed number of marriages'...

I've only had 2 marriages that ended in divorce...And the only failing going on in those marriages were the men themselves, not me.

Not unless you condone and believe that a woman should stay in a marriage where her life is in danger, as well as the life of her children?

And if I remember correctly...OD's marriages also failed because of severe abuse towards herself and her own children?

In those cases, a 'failed marriage' would have been if someone had been murdered in that relationship...Rather then what actually did happen...Escaping such abuse and not having them end in a funeral and jail sentences...
Sorry, I stand corrected.

It was only TEN failed marriages between three, not TWELVE (not yet anyway).

And needless to say all ten were the fault of the men involved - no surprise there!

Sad to say so many woman don't fall in love with men, they fall in love with the notion of falling in love.

But they never see it.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:05 PM   #124 (permalink)
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to call sunflower weak minded is wrong, it took a lot of strength to try and conform to what was expected of her by her peers.

???

Do you enjoy reversing logic at every opportunity?

It would have taken strength to stand up for what is right rather than conform to what she alleges others expected of her!
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Old 11-26-2007, 06:59 AM   #125 (permalink)
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Did you or didn't you say this:

Abusive relationship...I thought I cleared that up before...Let's let the professionals get in on this.
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As I pointed out in an earlier post, "relationship" doesn't mean a romantic relationship with a man. I was saying I'd bet your life has a tendency to have "drama" attached to it. Always some kinda crap going on. Like being involved ina drug bust with a gun your mouth. Those kinds of things don't happen to most people.

I seriously doubt that your boyfriends and husbands were your only interpersonal relationships that could be defined as abusive. But you hold on to that if you like.
Sorry dear...But relationships imply more then one relationship. Otherwise you would have said relationship. And I've disproven you on that observation, period...Because there were no 'relationships' after the 2 previous marriages, that were abusive...Just one dear. And like I've explained, it was a calculated risk on my own part being in that 'relationship'...

And honestly honey, just as with pointing out Gary overstating the number of previous marriages by only 2 when the total is still 10, pointing out that you only had 1 abusive boyfriend but then stating that you never had love in 2 abusive marriages doesn't add support to your argument.

I also haven't had 'multiple marriages' in the sense you want to use it...that of multiple bad marriages...I've had a couple bad marriages, but not multiple...

You had a couple of loveless abusive marriages. Using YOUR logic, just using the word "bad" is an extreme understatement. But I'm not gonna point that out, because it's petty.


So again, your observation is still disproven but for the exception that the marriages were entered into and end in divorce was instigated because of my prior abuse as a child. That we do agree on.

Well damn.


But as to the ONE boyfriend and that particular situation that got me involved into a relationship with him in the first place? My earlier childhood and 2 marriage experiences weren't a part of that happening. My desire to fight drugs were the catalyst for my being with him in the first place. As was the exotic dancing job as well.

So you were a cop then? Having a job as an undercover cop is a different situation then. But if you just volunteered to drop trou as a stripper because of some extreme desire to fight drugs, that's friggin insane.


Which actually did me good, both experiences. They were both hard things to go through, yes...Because I had to overcome my own personal phobias/pains to get into those situations. But it was a different kind of bad because there was a positive reason for being in both of those positions. As well as both experiences giving me a positive outlook and perspective of myself going through them. Because before entering those situations, I had a very low self esteem about myself in general...And doing them gave me a purpose for the first time in my life. Thanks to both of those experiences, I came out of it actually liking myself for the first time and feeling that I was worth more then just being thrown away. Of having the strength to stand up for what I believed in, as well as believing in myself of being able to make that change.

And if that's the case, then I too am proud of you. But if you were THAT screwed up, how can you not blame that on your childhood experience?


By the way, you should be thankful for me not telling the whole story of how that relationship ended that night when he put the gun in my mouth... Talk about a house filling up with guests quickly...

Not amused at all by the situation honestly.
Old 11-26-2007, 07:41 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Sorry, I stand corrected.

It was only TEN failed marriages between three, not TWELVE (not yet anyway).

And needless to say all ten were the fault of the men involved - no surprise there!

Sad to say so many woman don't fall in love with men, they fall in love with the notion of falling in love.

But they never see it.
She refused to fetch her husbands a beer. That's why the marriages failed.
Old 11-26-2007, 01:55 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Here is the worst thing to me, the absolute worst of all...

IF...
Garysher's conclusions about gay sex being a danger to society, immoral and ruinous for humanity, and at that, an affront to God Almighty...

then one would think, if his viewpoint was not opinion but divinely given revelation, then he would caringly and compassionately, and with unction, with passion for the hearts of those who are involved in gayness... he would seek to share in a way that would give the gay people the love of God shown in his presentation.

Cos people are their very best and reach for the best they can be when they are confident that they are loved. Garysher only shows an air of superiority and a lack of concern for persons. His only concern is to plaster his opinion in the discussion. But if he is a Christian, he ought to remember that he is an ambassador for Jesus.

Garysher, WWJP??? (what would Jesus post?) And for starters, know he would not post snide remarks, but would show the love of the Father.



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OhDear............Thank You soooooooooo much for this post.I have been trying to say this for a while but just couldn't put it into words.He and others like him are the reason I left relagion many years ago. I was not going to be bullied by others to believe what they wanted me to believe. Instead I have my own filling on the matter and I praise my creator the way I fill is best for me.THANK YOU!
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OhDear............Thank You soooooooooo much for this post.I have been trying to say this for a while but just couldn't put it into words.He and others like him are the reason I left relagion many years ago. I was not going to be bullied by others to believe what they wanted me to believe. Instead I have my own filling on the matter and I praise my creator the way I fill is best for me.THANK YOU!

I am quite certain that a critical man who seeks to hurt others with his condemning words is a displeasure to the God of love. And that the Lord don't appreciate his name being tacked on to a good deal of their opinions.

Live fully and love truly, Flower. And know that the Good Lord will always makes sure there will always be someone to fight with ya against the menacing small-minds of this world.

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Old 11-27-2007, 10:11 AM   #129 (permalink)
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I am quite certain that a critical man who seeks to hurt others with his condemning words is a displeasure to the God of love. And that the Lord don't appreciate his name being tacked on to a good deal of their opinions.

Live fully and love truly, Flower. And know that the Good Lord will always makes sure there will always be someone to fight with ya against the menacing small-minds of this world.

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So, which "God of Love" are you referring?
Cupid


And you start your post by referring to one man in singular, but finish it with "their" somehow changing the subject to plural. I'm not clear what you be tawkin' about. Could you be more clear?
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So, which "God of Love" are you referring?
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And you start your post by referring to one man in singular, but finish it with "their" somehow changing the subject to plural. I'm not clear what you be tawkin' about. Could you be more clear?

Not a problem Fx. I was referring to Garysher as the one man in singular but did, share as a grammatical error, a plural pronoun later, because there have been a number on this board alone who have used their religion to condemn gay people. Not you, you don't use religion to my recollection, you condemn on your own. But there are those here, Garysher, Grace, Rod and ReallyRod, and some others I guess, but I can't think who now, perhaps some lurkers from bygone days, like Jefferson and Alias, who stood on the facade of divine authority to condemn gay people.

I ought to have been more mindful to write clearly, but sometimes I sit down with a quick cuppa coffee and just whip out my thoughts to share and at that, in a hurry.

But now would you say you grasp my message to Flower?

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