Originally Posted by garysher

In your haste to be rude and offensive you dodged answering my question.

What equal rights are homosexuals denied under the law?

Originally Posted by Gadgetory

And your point is??? I am treating you in a way you expect to be treated because there could be no other reason why you are so rude and offensive and dodge questions..so either stop being rude and offensive and stop dodging question or STFU and deal..

Originally Posted by garysher

I dealt.

You dodged.

Here's one last chance, just to demonstrate my patience and tolerance:


What equal rights are homosexuals denied under the law?

Originally Posted by fxashun

There is no imaginable reason to attack a person for being gay. But saying that those feeling toward gay people have taken a poor "turn" is kinda misleading. Homosexual acts were illegal and "most" gay people had to stay in the closet. In the "last few years" there have just been more gay people visible, so of course there will be more attacks. There will always be a certain percentage of people that will "hate". You can't avoid that. And of the percentage, there will always be a percentage that will take the hate to the act of murder. It's unavoidable. And when the object of that hate becomes more visible, you are bound to have more violence.

For example, one of the results of the sex offenders having to register is some vigilantes are using the list to harass and in some cases kill registered sex offenders. How do you protect the sex offenders from the vigilantes yet still protect the community from the sex offenders?

Originally Posted by Gadgetory

Dude I don't care about you or your tolerance or patience. I have no respect for you... none ...you've none for yourself either or else you'd not be such a giant wanking pratt..


Btw you can keep on posting away all you want but you are nothing more then some Cretin who spends their time trying to annoy other people. You are a professional pest and everyone here knows it and I am not going to show you any tolerance or patience because nimrod you are a waste of space..

Originally Posted by Gadgetory

Where do you get most people agree with you???? In fact most peoplein comparable cultures (that means Western cultures) don't agree with you if we are talking worldwide so I assume you refer specifically to Americans who do agree with you. Are you unaware you keep saying "MOST" people???

Most people do...Where do you get your information that "most" people don't? I have never seen a poll that simply asks the question if homosexuals are "normal". That would be enlightening. Most polls I've read ask if it is immoral. But back to your point, "most" humans find some issue with homosexuality.

How on earth do you arrive at because they allow gay marriage in Mass. garysher will be able to marry a pig and have his kids watch him do the pig on the 'wedding' night???

It's the next logical step. Sodomy legalized, "gay marriage" allowed based on "rights", and then there's no reason not to allow some legal certification of those unions. And there are plenty of reasons to allow for registration of them.

Seriously the argument is so moronic I don't believe anyone with any education uses it.

You are right...Just one of the Supreme Court Justices...And no one would agree with him right....I think not.
relevanTomorrow: A Reply to Scalia's Dissent in Lawrence v. Texas

Hisotry shows us that such arguments are completely incorrect. The simple fact is thats all you have to 'validate' your argument. Its the sky is falling defence and Chicken Little its never worked before, look at human hisotry the same arguments are consistantly used and when those arguments are over-come nothing substantially different happened. Its the argument that is used whenever the majority want to deny a minority something. The world will fall apart. And if I am wrong I really do hope I am dead before gary is allowed to marry a pig, he clearly wants too he can't STFU up about sex with animals and children.

Not really, we already have "gay marriage" in one state. It seems your view of history, as with most of your other views, is flawed.

The study of un-natural-ness is called biology?? Really??? Lets look at biology. Yes if humans want to procreate they need 2 genders. But we don't always have sex to procreate our biology says we also have sex because it feels good. If you only have sex to have children then I assume you only have sex with your wife to reproduce and as you only have one kid I assume you don't do it alot which explains alot. Most humans have sex because it feels good not to procreate. And that is part of our biology. As for our physical bodies I know you've never been near the honey pot but most women like it. Just as I know you never get a BJ but most men like it. Our mouths were made for food and oddly it also feels good when we use them with our sex organs.

If life was only meant to for sexual gratification, that would be quite a novel rationality for homosexuality. But the "we have ex for strictly gratification" also doesn't remove "other deviant desires from the picture. Even if sex was strictly for gratification, there is no justification for having same gender sexual activity. We can masturbate, use toys, and other things for sexual gratification. Just as there is no physiological provision for sticking veggies in any orifice other than our mouths, but the internet has many examples where some poeple didn't get that memo. The fact that the mouth feels good when you use it on sex organs is a coincidence of it being just another orifice. There is no sexually related structures in the mouth. The fact that homosexuality is abnormal is self evident.

As for anal sex well the gay man G spot yes the Gland..and out of all the places in the body it could of evolved to be it evolved there ..wonder why??? As for women and anal sex well some women like it because again it feels good and our biology says we don't just have sex to procreate but because it feels good. We are the only animal that has sex because it feels good. So when we deny this instinct we are denying our biology..Why do you keep saying this as if it proves anything then you've no argument

Saying it is "denying or biology" is like saying it's a shame alcohol kills you because it tastes good. Some people derive pleasure from cutting themselves. Some people derive pleasure from sado masochistic acts. I guess we are missing out by not beating the crap out of each other until we yell the "stop word". Bullshit. You are welcome to seek pleasure any way you see fit, but calling the urge to want to marry the same gender normal as a result is bullshit. Because some men enjoy being mounted by canines and call that sexually gratifying. I don't think I man denying my biology by missing out.

Gay Pride isn't just a celbration of gayness but sexuality..you seem ashamed of your sexuality..its also a political statement..in our country people have the right to politically express themselves, don't they??. I am sorry the Iranians believe they have no homosexuals at all, they do of course but thats not what they believe.

I am proud of MY sexuality. MY sexuality produced my son, capability unique among all humans/mammals. I don't see why I should be considered ashamed of my sexuality. Heterosexuality on means I am a man who loves women. What is there to be ashamed of? Sometimes you make no sense at all.


Why would anyone go up to a gay person and call them unnatural and defective but you do it daily.

Because this is a forum for it and it is the truth.

Now thats abnormal social behavior right there. Next you will be arguing that the Aryan Brotherhood should go up to black people and call them un-natural and you'd be OK with that..

If they have a logical and concise reason to call a black person unnatural, that would be their right. Do you have a reason, that applies to ALL black people for someone to call one of them unnatural. Or are you typing with your anus?

afterall why should they be asked to turn their backs on what they believe. Talk about the slippery slope..where will it end?? I think such actions would result in a pretty violent society but go right ahead..find a big huge weight lifting Mary and call him defective..I bet you would not dare. Btw the Aryan Brotherhood are the largest and best organized gang in the country..they freakin scare the crap out of me.

I know what the Aryan Brother hood is. I still don't see where you can equate racism with homosexuality though. And you still have failed to make the connection.

Dude are you really trying to argue that gay people wanting to marry someone they love means they are asking for a special consideration

Yes. And they aren't alone.
Puppy Lust
"Today's animal lovers are demanding equal rights, arguing that they are a sexual minority, just like gays and lesbians."

..Didn't you marry someone you loved or did you have an arranged marriage. Your arguments are just so silly...no they are not asking for special consideration ..they are asking for their relationships to be legally recognized and other then your homphobia (which is your own issue and keep it to yourself) you've presented nothing to show why they shouldn't be given the same rights as you take for granted. Do not insult your own intelligence by saying but they can marry someone of the opposite gender..that argument is so stupid words cannot express it ..not only do you show intellectual laziness in arguing it but completely miss understand the purpose of marriage which is the thing you say you are trying to protect.

Originally Posted by garysher

Originally Posted by nuttyjoe

I do agree with some of your statement, FX. But perhaps you might enlighten me as to just which homosexual acts;when, and where they were illegal by law? Yes, a majority of society was (and still is) homophobic. I make no misrepresentation of myself when I say that I definitely was.

Sodomy laws up until 2003's Lawrence..
STATE SODOMY LAWS
I'm sure the question was rhetorical. But in case it wasn't, I'm sure a google will enlighten you to the details of each states laws.

What I meant in my previous post as to the "poor" turn of this subject had (has) nothing to do with economics. It meant that some people are now rationalizing assault, and sometimes murder, because they disagree with another's lifestyle. I'm drawing a blank as to where anyone sees this as acceptable behavior. It really doesn't make it legitimate to assault or murder another because one person is gay or homosexual.

I agree. But people attack others for any number of reasons. Being gay is just another one.

On the other hand; I'm pretty sure that assault and/or murder is illegal in every state- no matter which one you care to choose.

If that were really the case, why do we have "hate crimes" then? It seems some murders or assaults are worser than others.

All I'm saying here is that our real problem is not that you, I, and everyone else can disagree on this topic (and many others). It is in how we choose to realize that we disagree.
If one is of the opinion that being gay or homosexual is so wrong; how can that person then hold the opinion that it is okay to commit crime because of that disagreement? This is where many homophobes are in denial. They don't remember the old saying that "Two wrongs don't equal one right"!

Originally Posted by fxashun