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Old 11-27-2007, 08:00 AM   #41 (permalink)
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This is probably not the area for this question; but it may force some people not to think that they have the right to define one's sexuality for them. For these very people, I would like to know just why they want to define right and wrong/good and bad sexually. Here's the question, and yes, it is aimed at we men. Why do some of us think that watching woman on woman porn is so exciting; if this is to be so wrong?
Woman on woman sex is acceptable amoungst straight men. Gay male sex is not. Anymore questions?
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What I meant with my original question is that some people feel that homosexuality is so wrong and unnatural; but yet they enjoy this. That's what I don't get. If it is so wrong, why would this excite them?
Only male gay sex is wrong and unnatural. Anymore questions?
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Here's a Bible question.

Does the teaching "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" apply to a compulsive sado-masocist?
If at first you don’t succeed – try, try again and then quit. There’s no sense in making a damned fool of yourself. – W.C. Fields

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Only male gay sex is wrong and unnatural. Anymore questions?

Oh, just admit it, you would love to see The Rock drill Brad Pitt.
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Woman on woman sex is acceptable amoungst straight men. Gay male sex is not. Anymore questions?
Having had a recent discussion about gay male sex with my wife and her friends (women are so filthy I was almost embarrassed) gay male sex thing is a turn on for many women. Not that they want to actually see it like men they want people they think are hot together but the thought of Brad Pitt and George Clooney doing naughty things to each other is according to the women I spoke to a huge turn on.....I had no idea but there you go
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DO you believe pedophiles and zoophiles should be able to use that argument too?

After all, isn't their sexuality "natural" too in your bizarro mundo??
Garysher's first port o call is as usual pedophilia..your pathology is whacked
Old 11-27-2007, 02:36 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by garysher
DO you believe pedophiles and zoophiles should be able to use that argument too?

After all, isn't their sexuality "natural" too in your bizarro mundo??



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Garysher's first port o call is as usual pedophilia..your pathology is whacked
I see you have no counterpoint as always.

Well if you can think of anything be sure to let us know.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:40 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Garysher's first port o call is as usual pedophilia..your pathology is whacked
please don't ever expect anything different from him - EVER
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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
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Coming soon to a movie theater near you.

Here's hoping those of you who use the Bible as the basis for your position on homosexuality, either pro and con, will see this film with an open mind.

Periodically re-examining your positions and motivations for them is always a worthwhile exercise. I agree with Socrates in believing that an unexamined life is not worth living.

For The Bible Tells Me So

Can the love between two people ever be an abomination? Is the chasm separating gays and lesbians and Christianity too wide to cross? Is the Bible an excuse to hate?

Winner of the Audience Award for Best Documentary at the Seattle International Film Festival, Dan Karslake's provocative, entertaining documentary brilliantly reconciles homosexuality and Biblical scripture, and in the process reveals that Church-sanctioned anti-gay bias is based almost solely upon a significant (and often malicious) misinterpretation of the Bible. As the film notes, most Christians live their lives today without feeling obliged to kill anyone who works on the Sabbath or eats shrimp (as a literal reading of scripture dictates).

Through the experiences of five very normal, very Christian, very American families -- including those of former House Majority Leader Richard Gephardt and Episcopalian Bishop Gene Robinson -- we discover how insightful people of faith handle the realization of having a gay child. Informed by such respected voices as Bishop Desmond Tutu, Harvard's Peter Gomes, Orthodox Rabbi Steve Greenberg and Reverend Jimmy Creech, FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO offers healing, clarity and understanding to anyone caught in the crosshairs of scripture and sexual identity.

The Cleveland Stonewall Democrats is hosting this movie this weekend and we plan on attending its Cleveland premier. My mother/father expressed an interest in seeing this when I told them about it at Thanksgiving. I'll add more after we see it.

Thanks for bringing this one up Forester!
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please don't ever expect anything different from him - EVER
When you come up with a convincing argument why pedophilia and homosexuality are not both aberrant, dysfunctional sexual behaviours then I'll stop using that as a comparison.

After all this time you have still failed to explain why, if homosexuals are that way naturally, and should be allowed to practice homosexuality with impunity and accepted as normal, then why shouldn't pedophiles be accepted the same way?


Or zoophiles (Willie's favourite example).
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