I guess it's just me - I know that many people get turned on by public sex - but, for whatever reason - it just seems nasty and repulsive to me. To each his own! LOL

That's my whole outlook on the gay topic: To each his own! Incidentally, a very good friend revealed to me this past August that he was homosexual. I've known this man for over twenty years, and never had a clue! I asked him why he never told me before; and he answered, "Because I could always see that picture of disgust on your face in my mind every time I wanted to. I knew our friendship wouldn't last back then.
That answer shamed me thoroughly. A good friend having to live a lie only because he valued my friendship so. I'm the one who's living a lie if that is just how shallow and superficial I am (was). My friend's sex life is none of my concern. True, being homosexual or even think of it is not my cup of tea; but while I may have over a million acquaintances, I probably only count maybe fifteen friends on the level of my friendship with this man. So, I no longer view gays and homosexuals in the same light I did not that long ago.
Look around you, people. Every one of you gay-bashers is probably in the same situation: your friend just hasn't told you outright. But when they do tell you, what will you value most: your friendship with that person, or your homophobic viewpoints? I made my choice on what I value most, and I do not regret it at all.

Excellent post, Joe. I guess this friend of yours was too scared to say that he was gay. I think he did well to hide his sexual preference, because one never knows the kind of person that he would encounter, like those who wielded baseball bats in Balboa Park in San Diego. Like those men who beat a gay man, and put him in the hospital.

I am straight, but I never had a serious relationship with a woman, although I very much want to. I guess it is my hearing disability, plus being ostracized in school that put me in my place.

I have many friends at my church who are openly gay. My church has one of the largest, if not the largest percentage of gay members. They are very active there.

I also should add that in my early days of posting on Yahoo, long before DTT came around, one poster wanted to know how sex can happen between two females. I suppose it was simple for him to just witness a pair getting intimate with each other.

There is a middle ground to everything. Do you have some sort of divine contract that says the world is fair?

Only if Angelia Jolie was watching too.

No contract, sir; I just believe something or I don't.

the world would be better with more people like you who live with open hearts and minds

Its people like you that make us keep fighting......You are a true friend

We all know it wuld "unnatural" for NOT to bring up pedophilia, zoophilia, or incest. Strange these subjects ALWAYs creep up in just about every topic you reply too.....[/quote]

Thats because Garys loves his dog in a completely weird way and would like his kids to watch him do Fido. There is no other reason why someone would use these examples.

What society finds acceptable is defined by the law. The LAW says homosexuality is legal and that Garysher is a whacked out dude obssessed with children and animals

There is no God so God made nothing. But simple fact is no-one knows why homosexuality exists. It does it always has as far as we can gather from human kept records and it exists amongst other animals just as heterosexuality exists in the animal world. The fact that people such as Gary and the "I am not not obssessed with homosexuals I just talk about them all day" guy (also known as FX) cannot accept what is plainly obvious just means they refuse to accept reality and instead carry on like 12 year old girls trying to win and un-winable argument.

If a gay person says they were born that way and there is no evidence to the contrary then as far as anyone knows they were born that way. More and more evidence supports that gay people where born that way.

I also love people who dismiss the theory of evolution and what we know about genetics out right but then use its basic tenents to say homosexuality doesn't exist naturally. The inconsistant argument is so obvious I don't know why anyone with any intelligence would use it which i guess is why garysher and the guy not obssessed with gay people but talks about them all day use this type of argument.

In the end even if gay people are not born that way and its some sort of subconscious choice I don't really see the difference. They didn't make the choice knowingly so as far as the person is concerned they were born that way. Further we protect peoples rights in this society to make choices for themselves and so long as that choice is not illegal which all the acts gary and the guy who isn't obssessed with gay people but talks about them all day use in comparison are, then they have every right to make the choice. For instance there is no Religion Gene but we protect the rght of people to have religion forced upon them as a young child so they never question it. So I say to gary and the guy who isn';t obssessed with gay people but talks about them all day every day STFU or present an argument on point that does not involve illegal activites or provide actual evidence that homosexuality is not natural but a choice. And I mean actual evidence from an accepted scientific source not some homophopbic organization that is full of people who dislike themselves so much they would prefer to be un happy like all the Cognitive Therapy 'scientists"..real actual evidence. Whereas there is evidence that it is a naturally occuring phenomenon recent studies on brain size and the difference between certain parts of the brain show this to be true.