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Old 01-10-2008, 09:12 PM   #431 (permalink)
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Tristan, I do not mean to confabulate from my own sense of emotions here, but in your post as well as in CF's there was a certain discussion about limiting the contact or the previous intimacy.

If you READ my post, you will see that I stated - and I thought QUITE clearly - that if there were any distancing, it would come from the other person, not me.

But - don't bother responding to what I actually wrote.

Further you went on to say you would doubt the validity of their endeavor so you could "support" the person but not encourage their pursuit. How do you do that???
Talk about semantics, Tristan.

I NEVER SAID THAT I WOULD DOUBT THEIR VALIDITY. You are really good at putting your own (erroneous) spin on what others say.
As far as I'm concerned, encouraging means cheerleading. I don't believe it's a good therapy. I also don't think that divorce is a good thing. I would support my friend who wanted a divorce, too - but I wouldn't "encourage" it. It's not "semantics" - it's WORDS and using them as their definitions dictate.

I can only believe from the lock, stock and barrel of what you have posted here and there and over the past year, that you would not believe their claim to be "freed" from homosexuality, should they make that claim. Again, that would indicate to me a breakdown of trust and would mean that you would not embrace that one with the same "happy-for-you" attitude that you had previously held when they were practicing gay sex and admitting ssa.

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And once again, what you believe, what is "indicated" to you - AND WHAT I WROTE seem to be quite at odds with each other.

Since you want to re-write my answers and re-interpret them to fit your preconceived notion of what I should want to write, why don't you just have a back and forth discussion with yourself. It's clear you're asking questions, but have no interest whatsoever in the responses.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:38 PM   #432 (permalink)
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Thanks Tristan!

"Bonnie Kim?"

"Yes, OhDear?"

"Do you believe that people all want to sound like they are tolerant of those who live differently than they do?"

"Why yes I do, OhDear. And it may even be more than just want to sound like that. Maybe they even want to truly be tolerant."

"But Bonnie Kim, don't you suppose that people that are gay, are as likely to have their own set of prejudices and intolerances as what straight people do? I mean after all Bon, you know...people ARE people. And being gay or being straight doesn't negate the fact that we all tend to find comfort and easily accept people who "stick with us" "

"True that, OhDear. But Tristan here at the DTT has manifested the greatest tolerance of all humankind. He no doubt would be hunky dory, a-ok with someone who had lived gay turning from the gay community to embrace a heterosexual life through rehab. It goes against what he personally holds to, but he is a reasonable man and so very accepting. "

"Uh-huh. I remember now..."

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Old 01-11-2008, 06:44 AM   #433 (permalink)
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With some sort of winch to pull disabled vehicles onto the trailer? Does the trailer tilt at all? Just curious. It's nice to talk about something other than politics sometimes. Not to derail this lovely bitchfest we have going here.
Nope...The deal I'm working on is strictly to haul cars that actually run. Like I said, it'll be inhouse towing, I'll be under contract though. Running almost 100% local unless I get a good rate for longer hauls.
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Tristan here at the DTT has manifested the greatest tolerance of all humankind. He no doubt would be hunky dory, a-ok with someone who had lived gay turning from the gay community to embrace a heterosexual life through rehab. It goes against what he personally holds to, but he is a reasonable man and so very accepting.
FINALLY, you got it right. Thank you.
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You got me there. I suppose if I knew someone who was unhappy with being gay for religious reasons, I could do nothing less than support him or her in that decision.


I wouldn't like it, though. I believe God just wants us to be happy. We are all His children, no? Do you have kids? Don't you want them to just be happy?

Happy people don't start wars or murder each other.
Yup, got kids and want them happy. Also agree that God wants us to be happy as well.

Unfortunately as parents, we can't always say yes to our children. Of course, that is very different from unconditionally loving them anyway.

And God wants us happy His way with His rules...which even He admits we ain't too good at following. (So Jesus had to take the rap for us.)
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