Only partly.

You're talking to the wrong guy about that. I'm a big fan of good art.


I think we should leave people alone who don't want "fixed".

Would anyone really miss gay culture? Absolutely. When the reference was made to the modern function the gay culture you called it stereotypical. Fine. Simply because it is the stereotype doesn't mean it isn't accurate. Those are partial functions of gay culture.

If cultures like gay culture and deaf culture disappeared would anyone miss them in 200 years? No. They would not. Not because those cultures didn't add uniqueness to the mix, but because uniqueness will be shunned. If the public had the ability to pre-screen and modify their child in womb, diversity would be destroyed. The vast majority of the public would create children without genetic 'defects'. We would be breeding perfect babies, all the same. Just alike. We'd all have little perfect children with little perfect lives and be oblivious to the things we've left behind.

You like to make the comparison between homosexuality and sailing and how eventually both will pass over the horizon. Well there is a big difference between people and boats. That's been part of my argument all along. Each individual is unique and thus should be important. Respected. Brought into the mix. It is the unique individuals that challenge us to think, challenge us to grow and change. We, out of our desire for perfection, seek to eliminate this uniqueness and thus our future motivation.

The problem with the whole idea is that there will always - ALWAYS - be some gay kids who are born - no matter how many tests are run. We know they can detect Down's Syndrome, and there is no shortage of kids with Down's Syndrome to fill the special ed classes in schools.
The difference being, though fewer than before, the ones who are gay that survive will live an even MORE DIFFICULT existence than the ones now do.

Quick answer to that: You have to be worth at least a million before most of the higher rights kick in. Middle class are only tolerated to the point of qualifying to buy that shit the saleman is trying to sell. Nobody gives a fuck about poor people.

Is this has what to do with having naked festivals in the woods? OOps, wrong thread!

You seem to be resting on the assumption that.
A: Only gay people create good art.
B: If homosexuality could be reversed, it would destroy the creativity in those people.

An I'm all for leaving people alone who don't want to be fixed. Unless, of course, what's broken with them causes them to be a threat to themsevles or others... which homosexuality does not.

Dabateman, all that rest on the assumption that the state of homosexuality is an objectivly desirable one to begin with. I think that question is, nowadays, padded with a lot of political correctness and flat out bullshit, IMO.

Be that as it may, I understand that some, indeed many, gay people are perfectly happy that way, and are able to live full, well-rounded lives.

Even so, I know a succesful professional man who has a severe palsey.. and he is happy and lives a full-well rounded life. But does that mean we should stop trying to find a reversal of that condition?

Again, we can assign "uniqueness" and "diversity" to all sorts of things. Severe near-sightedness runs in my family.. and I have it. So, many of my distant anscestors who lived in the days before corrective lenses probably got along just fine, and were in their own way unique and probably had a way of looking at and experiencing life that is now pretty much gone for good.
Still, does that make me boring or my life empty?

You see, your reasoning seems to rest on the assumption that there's a finite number of ways to be unique or diverse.. and if we take some away in efforts to reverse certian conditions... the "unique" pool will eventually be drained.

I don't think that's the case. I think if every infirmity of the human condition is cured.... which might be entirely possible someday... there will still be countless ways in which people will be unique and diverse.

I said I was partly kidding, didn't I?

I love Myt's posting style. He is my idol. If I had his style with my assholicity, I'd be a forum terror.

I think you're getting there, Fx. . . Keep up the good work!

BTW, I dig your new avatar (you're my hero).