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02-06-2008, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheLeft  Thanks for the FYI, Forester.  I could tell by some of the responses in this thread that he was another closed-minded homophobe. I've probably met a million just like him in my day. | Sure thing. Always happy to help family! 
Though in this case, we aren't really sure if he is a homophobe. He admitted a while back to being a message board troll, and that he only stops by to amuse himself by taunting gay people. So it's hard to say what his true feelings on the subject are. Personally, though, I stopped caring or trying to understand him after he made that declaration. Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheLeft I have a few friends who are also gay parents and their children are bright, outgoing and well-adjusted young adults. Children don't care what kind of genitalia their parents have. They only care that they're given love and support. | Very well said, OTL. Forgive me taking a moment to crow, but our adopted daughter has made astonishing progress in her time with us. She came to us about five years ago, painfully shy and significantly behind in developmental benchmarks, and is now at the head of her class, and, well, we can't shut her up!
I would like to think my wife and I played a significant role in that. I learn something from her every day, and feel blessed that she came into our lives.
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02-06-2008, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman Cyn babeeeee! Where have you been? | Hey, Rich!
I'm sure you know how life can get in the way of one's message board time. It's just been doing that a LOT recently.
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02-06-2008, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fxashun Don't forget any time you profess that you have feelings against homosexuality it diminishes her "humanity" somehow. I wonder how firm her grasp is on it in the first place if that's all it takes. | In your giddy rush to jump on the insult bandwagon, it appears you have forgotten the actual topic of your apology to me, FX. Traditional Marriage - Page 7 - Political Wrinkles
No matter.
I suspected your apology was insincere. Thanks for confirming it.
Shame on me for giving you the benefit of the doubt more than once.
But to clear up your confusion, your feelings and statements against homosexuality do not diminish my humanity, FX. You don't have the power to do that.
Your feelings against homosexuality diminish YOUR humanity, just as feelings condemning a person's race, gender, or religion would. And your statements against homosexuality put your diminished humanity on display.
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02-06-2008, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tristanrobin really?
well, if a traditional marriage is exclusively male/female - and it would "end" - then obviously something banned, abolished, exterminated, extinguished, pick the verb of your choice, to it.
If it ends, it means there is no more traditional marriage.
Amazing how you want to play semantics games - and, yet, you're so poor at it. | If marriage were redefined to accommodate homosexuals, or polygamists etc, then it would no longer be exclusively one man one woman - which is traditional in our society.
Is that semantics or are you being disingenuous - again?
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02-06-2008, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by forester814 Sure thing. Always happy to help family!
Though in this case, we aren't really sure if he is a homophobe. He admitted a while back to being a message board troll, and that he only stops by to amuse himself by taunting gay people. So it's hard to say what his true feelings on the subject are. Personally, though, I stopped caring or trying to understand him after he made that declaration. Still ducking the issues Forester??
Very well said, OTL. Forgive me taking a moment to crow, but our adopted daughter has made astonishing progress in her time with us. She came to us about five years ago, painfully shy and significantly behind in developmental benchmarks, and is now at the head of her class, and, well, we can't shut her up!
I would like to think my wife and I played a significant role in that. I learn something from her every day, and feel blessed that she came into our lives. | Wife?
Is homosexual marriage legal in your state?
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02-06-2008, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheLeft Meh, he's starting to bore me now. 
So he's been railing on about gay people for years here? That's pathetic. | The only silver lining I can find is that, over time, as he finds new "victims," I have seen that they catch on to his act more and more quickly.
I spent a couple months a few years ago trying to connect with his humanity, and finally gave up. Once he came out as a troll, though, I felt vindicated. | |
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02-06-2008, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by forester814 The only silver lining I can find is that, over time, as he finds new "victims," I have seen that they catch on to his act more and more quickly.
I spent a couple months a few years ago trying to connect with his humanity, and finally gave up. Once he came out as a troll, though, I felt vindicated. | Your perceptions of my values, beliefs, and opinions, the ONLY things I am here to talk about, have clearly been negatively affected by the fact that I am NOT gay.
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02-06-2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by forester814 In your giddy rush to jump on the insult bandwagon, it appears you have forgotten the actual topic of your apology to me, FX. Traditional Marriage - Page 7 - Political Wrinkles
No matter.
I suspected your apology was insincere. Thanks for confirming it.
Shame on me for giving you the benefit of the doubt more than once.
But to clear up your confusion, your feelings and statements against homosexuality do not diminish my humanity, FX. You don't have the power to do that.
Your feelings against homosexuality diminish YOUR humanity, just as feelings condemning a person's race, gender, or religion would. And your statements against homosexuality put your diminished humanity on display. | My apology WAS sincere as it related to that subject of you being called "Pixie Chick" was dehumanizing to you. But that ain't what we are talking about here.
Finding something wrong with homosexuality is not the same as race, gender or religion. Homosexuality compels an abnormal unnatural action just as zoofie and pedo. All of them are unnatural for any species on the planet IMHO. And stating that just makes me honest, if anything strengthening my "humanity". Whatever the fruck that is.
Race doesn't compel anything.
Gender has it's own set of rules.
And as for religion, well there are some "f'd" up things done in the name of religion, so I don't know if I can agree with you on that one.
But just as legal definition if homosexuality, defined age of consent, and whether zoophilia can change on human whim.
Homosexuality will ALWAYS be and has ALWAYS BEEN unnatural biologically and sterile reproductively. Just as having sex with a prepubescent child and another species. And even though man is looking like they are breaking through that natural barrier as well, hopefully most humans will retain the knowledge what is corect and natural for our species.
Because to strip that knowledge away in the name of "rights" is the biggest threat of "dehumanizing" that I can see.
It ranks right up there with that "abortion rights" bullshit.
If they can make sheep that are 15% human, I wonder how long before they make humans that are 15% sheep? I wonder what will it take to "dehumanize" that "person"?
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02-06-2008, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fxashun My apology WAS sincere as it related to that subject of you being called "Pixie Chick" was dehumanizing to you. | All right then.
This is me giving you the benefit of the doubt again.
Please don't make me sorry for doing that.
As for the rest of your post, I understand that is your position, and though I disagree with it, I recognize that you are welcome to hold it.
So where did this stuff about me saying that it is diminishing my humanity when you state your position come from?
I may have forgotten, but I honestly do not remember ever saying that. | |
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02-06-2008, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by forester814 All right then.
This is me giving you the benefit of the doubt again.
Please don't make me sorry for doing that.
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