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Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Old 02-03-2008, 12:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
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So it doesn't matter to you whether your partner has a penis or a vagina?
Actually with Tris, he wouldn't mind if it were his sister/brother.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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... as long as it's not you

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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
Old 02-03-2008, 09:23 PM   #23 (permalink)
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... as long as it's not you
You're too old, and a bit too rotund for the FX guy. Sorry, it wouldn't happen anyway. Even if I was gay, you still wouldn't make the grade.
Old 02-04-2008, 01:08 PM   #24 (permalink)
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N.Y. court declares out-of-state gay marriages valid

Fri Feb 1, 7:53 PM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York appeals court ruled on Friday that valid same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries must be recognized in New York, the first known ruling of its kind in the country, a rights group said.


"This is a victory for families, it's a victory for fairness and it's a victory for human rights," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.
How can it be a "victory for families" when the end result is that children have a mummy, a mummy's pal and no daddy?

That's not a real family.

And how can it be a victory for human rights when brothers are still forbidden from marrying their sisters?
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How can it be a "victory for families" when the end result is that children have a mummy, a mummy's pal and no daddy?
You're clearly confused. The child would have "two moms" or "two dads." There's nothing wrong with that. There has been a plethora of studies done that prove children growing up in gay households are no less "normal" than kids growing up in straight households.

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That's not a real family.
Actually, it is a real family; it's just not a "traditional" family.

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Umm....incest has been known to cause birth defects. However, you can keep trying. Good luck.

Hate is NOT a 'family value.'
Feminism: the radical notion that women are human beings.
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[/color]You're clearly confused. The child would have "two moms" or "two dads." There's nothing wrong with that. There has been a plethora of studies done that prove children growing up in gay households are no less "normal" than kids growing up in straight households.

APA Public Interest Directorate: Research Summary on Lesbian and Gay Parenting

The very fact that you quote these worthless studies proves you haven't read any of them!

I have so I know how worthless they are, and many legal experts agree with me. They are based on questionnaires mailed out to tiny samples, sometimes as few as 15 !

Children without a father or children without a mother lack a complete perspective.




Actually, it is a real family; it's just not a "traditional" family.

So by your bizarre rationale, any combination of adults and children is a family?

So a play school group could be a family for example? or a soccer team?

As long as it takes one man and one woman to create a baby naturally, a child with a mummy and daddy will be a natural family
[color=red][color=black]Umm....incest has been known to cause birth defects. However, you can keep trying. Good luck.
Not all incestuous births result in birth defects.

But you are right that an incestuous "marriage" is as ludicrous as a homosexual one. Good luck in persuading America otherwise
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You're too old, and a bit too rotund for the FX guy. Sorry, it wouldn't happen anyway. Even if I was gay, you still wouldn't make the grade.
so you're gonna stick with the "I know you are but what am I?" technique?

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Way to go, New York!

Baby steps, people.
We will get there eventually.
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That's not a real family.
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[/color]You're clearly confused. The child would have "two moms" or "two dads."
You'll have to overlook Gary's bad manners here, OTL.
This topic has been a source of his gay-baiting amusement for years.
Best not to play along.
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You'll have to overlook Gary's bad manners here, OTL.
This topic has been a source of his gay-baiting amusement for years.
Best not to play along.
Good ole Forester always tries to write off support for traditional marriage and the family as "bad manners" or "gay baiting" because she has run out of anything approaching a rational argument.

Please try to forgive her naivety.

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