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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman So it doesn't matter to you whether your partner has a penis or a vagina? | Actually with Tris, he wouldn't mind if it were his sister/brother.
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Originally Posted by tristanrobin ... as long as it's not you  | You're too old, and a bit too rotund for the FX guy. Sorry, it wouldn't happen anyway. Even if I was gay, you still wouldn't make the grade.
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Originally Posted by tristanrobin N.Y. court declares out-of-state gay marriages valid Fri Feb 1, 7:53 PM ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York appeals court ruled on Friday that valid same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries must be recognized in New York, the first known ruling of its kind in the country, a rights group said.  
"This is a victory for families, it's a victory for fairness and it's a victory for human rights," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. | How can it be a "victory for families" when the end result is that children have a mummy, a mummy's pal and no daddy?
That's not a real family.
And how can it be a victory for human rights when brothers are still forbidden from marrying their sisters?
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Originally Posted by garysher How can it be a "victory for families" when the end result is that children have a mummy, a mummy's pal and no daddy? | You're clearly confused. The child would have "two moms" or "two dads." There's nothing wrong with that. There has been a plethora of studies done that prove children growing up in gay households are no less "normal" than kids growing up in straight households. APA Public Interest Directorate: Research Summary on Lesbian and Gay Parenting Quote: |
That's not a real family.
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And how can it be a victory for human rights when brothers are still forbidden from marrying their sisters?
| Umm....incest has been known to cause birth defects. However, you can keep trying. Good luck. |
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Originally Posted by OnTheLeft.org [/color] You're clearly confused. The child would have "two moms" or "two dads." There's nothing wrong with that. There has been a plethora of studies done that prove children growing up in gay households are no less "normal" than kids growing up in straight households. APA Public Interest Directorate: Research Summary on Lesbian and Gay Parenting
The very fact that you quote these worthless studies proves you haven't read any of them!
I have so I know how worthless they are, and many legal experts agree with me. They are based on questionnaires mailed out to tiny samples, sometimes as few as 15 !
Children without a father or children without a mother lack a complete perspective. Actually, it is a real family; it's just not a "traditional" family. So by your bizarre rationale, any combination of adults and children is a family?
So a play school group could be a family for example? or a soccer team?
As long as it takes one man and one woman to create a baby naturally, a child with a mummy and daddy will be a natural family
[color=red][color=black]Umm....incest has been known to cause birth defects. However, you can keep trying. Good luck.  | Not all incestuous births result in birth defects.
But you are right that an incestuous "marriage" is as ludicrous as a homosexual one. Good luck in persuading America otherwise
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Originally Posted by fxashun You're too old, and a bit too rotund for the FX guy. Sorry, it wouldn't happen anyway. Even if I was gay, you still wouldn't make the grade. | so you're gonna stick with the "I know you are but what am I?" technique?
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Originally Posted by garysher How can it be a "victory for families" when the end result is that children have a mummy, a mummy's pal and no daddy? That's not a real family. | Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheLeft.org [/color]You're clearly confused. The child would have "two moms" or "two dads." | You'll have to overlook Gary's bad manners here, OTL.
This topic has been a source of his gay-baiting amusement for years.
Best not to play along. |
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Originally Posted by forester814 You'll have to overlook Gary's bad manners here, OTL.
This topic has been a source of his gay-baiting amusement for years.
Best not to play along. | Good ole Forester always tries to write off support for traditional marriage and the family as "bad manners" or "gay baiting" because she has run out of anything approaching a rational argument.
Please try to forgive her naivety.
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