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Old 05-26-2008, 05:23 PM   #1691 (permalink)
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Your usual disingenuous and misleading verbiage about race is as irrelevant as always.
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my post was about redefining words

are you drunk?
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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
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Old 05-26-2008, 05:39 PM   #1692 (permalink)
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my post was about redefining words

Not content with trying to redefine the institution of marriage, now you want to redefine words too??

Words like "normal" and "purpose"??

You will need to redefine a lot of words to perpetrate the illusion that homosexuality isn't an abnormal dysfunction.
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Old 05-27-2008, 08:29 AM   #1693 (permalink)
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Not content with trying to redefine the institution of marriage, now you want to redefine words too??

Words like "normal" and "purpose"??

You will need to redefine a lot of words to perpetrate the illusion that homosexuality isn't an abnormal dysfunction.
Society is constantly redefining what is "normal". It was at one time "normal" to not bathe. It used to be "normal" to put leaches on you when you had certain medical problems. It used to be "normal" to recite prayer in public schools. Society evolves, and what is "normal" changes over time.

And as far as purpose goes, we have already proved time and time again that "purpose" has very little to do with who should legally marry, because there is no fertility test given to an aspiring couple, and nobody is required to marry to reproduce. That's a "definition" that you are trying to add to marriage that is simply not there.
Old 05-27-2008, 08:32 AM   #1694 (permalink)
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What the people who are against same sex marriage are really concerned about isn't an attack on traditional marriage, they are actually concerned about an attack on their faith. It is a religious issue for them, not a legal one, as fx stated himself.

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Legal isn't the standard I use.
They are free to debate this topic all they want to, but they are not free to infringe on the liberties that being a citizen here affords individuals. That is about the legalities, and that is where their arguments fail. So I'm not surprised that what is legal isn't the standard they use, it is however the standard that applies in this matter.
Old 05-27-2008, 08:45 AM   #1695 (permalink)
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What the people who are against same sex marriage are really concerned about isn't an attack on traditional marriage, they are actually concerned about an attack on their faith. It is a religious issue for them, not a legal one, as fx stated himself.



They are free to debate this topic all they want to, but they are not free to infringe on the liberties that being a citizen here affords individuals. That is about the legalities, and that is where their arguments fail. So I'm not surprised that what is legal isn't the standard they use, it is however the standard that applies in this matter.
Excuse me...But don't put me in with the "faithful", you will not see me debating this from a religious standpoint. I'd be just as liable to argue against organized religion.

I think "legal" should be based on something other than whim. That's what I mean. I would appreciate if you would make your own arguments and not based what you stay on misrepresentation of my words.

If same-sex marriage is made the law of the land, then any sexual laws are up for discussion since sex is now based on simple opinion and nothing more. Instead of now at least we have a reproductive and biological reason for one man and one woman. And THAT standard will never change. Because NOTHING supports same sex marriage other than misguided and relativistic opinion.

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Old 05-27-2008, 08:48 AM   #1696 (permalink)
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The Constitution isn't a whim, fx. And whether you want to call your argument religious or not, it is always a moral issue, not a legal one.
Old 05-27-2008, 08:52 AM   #1697 (permalink)
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The Constitution isn't a whim, fx. And whether you want to call your argument religious or not, it is always a moral issue, not a legal one.
Not really. I don't base my opinion on morality. I was told I wasn't supposed to do that here. Telling me my argument is religious doesn't make it so. I left organized religion behind a long time ago.

The constitution says nothing about "gay". In fact, sodomy was illegal then, so when it was written, "gay" was just as worldwide verboten as zoophilia, since they shared the legal term.
Old 05-27-2008, 08:54 AM   #1698 (permalink)
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I bet your eyes are brown.
What ever do you mean? Did I post something that didn't make sense?
Old 05-27-2008, 08:57 AM   #1699 (permalink)
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Where do you come up with this hysterical nonsense?

When the US attacked Iraq in 2003 were you trying to destroy Iraq?

Or just change it beyond recognition?
We were trying to change it into our definition of a democracy. Funny how history shows us how such an approach rarely works. Now we're here trying to clean up all the shit we started. Me, I'm here to build power plants.
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Hey this is a new one from the homosexual camp.

Now it's ok to be gay because amoeba reproduce asexually!

This is such an improvement on the old gay penguin argument they've been using.
Male and female penguins all look alike anyway, so being gay is immaterial.
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