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| Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman. |
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| Partisan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Haven, CT Gender: ![]() Posts: 7,682 Country: ![]()
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That's being equally restricted to being treated fairly. It's the equivalent of having all religions banned except Christianity- but everybody having the equal right to worship Jesus. That's not equal - that's uniform discrimination. Nobody gives a hang about "society's" validation - the fight is for MY government's recognition of ME. Nobody wants a place at your Thanksgiving table. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| *Premium Member* Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Gender: ![]() Posts: 5,247 Country: ![]()
| Quite true. And we should all be subjected to a life that is fair in every regard and hold hands and sing "Kum by yah" and the end of each day. If not, we should demand justice and equal treatment by god!! | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| *Premium Member* Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Gender: ![]() Posts: 5,247 Country: ![]()
| Nope, nope, nope............ Here is the hierarchy as it exists in America today. This is how your "equality" is truly defined. From best to worst........here we go:
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,680 Country: ![]()
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Or a majority of a minority. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Partisan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Haven, CT Gender: ![]() Posts: 7,682 Country: ![]()
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I guess somebody will have to wait and ask God what reason he had for making gay people gay. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,680 Country: ![]()
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need a woman's mammary glands to live for the first few months of life. Unless you are gonna tell me gay men have those too, your "I have a son" premise doesn't tell me anything useful. God created a lot of sexually farked up humans. Gay folk, pedophiles, transgendered, sexual obsessives, so acting like having a sexual perversion is somehow different or rare or impossible for one of "God's creatures" is a rather bullshit analysis of the situtation IMHO. Step 2: Talk about sex. The only thing required for procreation is screwing. And we all know that males of many species will try to screw anything, anyhow. But as humans, you would think we would apply our higher intelligence to determine that two penis's don't belong in a vagina at the same time. Yet there is porn that demonstrates how to do that as well. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Therefore, there is no more "reason" for heterosexuality as homosexuality. An "attraction" is not required for procreation. You're not special. Get over yourself. *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago 'burbs Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,276 Country: ![]()
| Baby steps, always baby steps. Obtaining a civil union law in NJ was more palatable for people than full marriage, so we took that step. Exposing how they do not work as intended, also a needed step. But that would have been hard to do without actually having civil unions first, to provide actual data. Next step is pretty obvious. Legal marriage. We will keep fighting the good fight, and we will get there. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago 'burbs Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,276 Country: ![]()
| Actually, that isn't needed either. Just ask any sperm donor, egg donor, or turkey baster mom out there. Procreating is the easy part. Parenting is the hard part. But as we have seen, both can be done with equal success by anyone of any sexual orientation. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago 'burbs Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,276 Country: ![]()
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Anything less than equality... isn't equality. And no amount of semantic games will turn the current situation into equality. Thanks for the reference link, too, OTL. It's the shortest and easiest to understand one of those charts I have seen. Bookmarked that one for future use. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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