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Old 02-20-2008, 11:56 AM   #61 (permalink)
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What if you have the ability to have a baby out of your asshole? Wouldn't that at least nullify some of your arguments?
Yes it would.

When that becomes possible I may have to review my entire position on this tortured subject.
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Old 02-20-2008, 12:21 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Yes it would.

When that becomes possible I may have to review my entire position on this tortured subject.
Quite frankly, I think this "tortured" subject has been debated enough to give rise to a serious discussion regarding the actuality of having babies out of your asshole. How much more can be said about gay marriage? I never really cared either way when the piss started years ago on the old Yahoo message board. We ae already heading to a more decadent society on far more fronts than homosexual marriage.

Look at the bloody big picture.

Have you heard of diveristy? That's a politically correct way of saying that social norms no longer matter because what ever bizzare behaviour you choose to engage in must be protected by the rights granted you as a citizen.

Soon it will be OK to shit in public for fear of a lawsuit by some ACLU attorney demanding your right to do so.

The hell with any national identification or standard of conduct - we certainly wouldn't want to offend some recent immmigrant's shit definition of decency.
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Nope. According to Gary none of those activities are necessarily deviant, and I have never suggested as such.

What I said was that the purpose of the sexual instinct is to ensure procreation, and that's why it's a pleasurable activity.

I never suggested that every act of sex should result in a new baby.

However, sex between two people of the same sex can NEVER result in new life, hence it is a deviation from the purpose of sex, so by definition, it's deviant and abnormal.

As for defining homosexuals in terms of their sexuality, this is a choice they make for themselves.
Sigh. You changing your position constantly is made all the more frustrating by the lack of a good search function. I'm going to start inserting unique words into certain posts to you that I want to find again...

" No it doesn't mean that we have to make a baby every time we have sex, but that's the purpose of the sexual function.

Hence any deviation from that purpose is............deviant"

Luckily, I'm persistent. Any deviation from that purpose (That purpose referring to "Making a baby") is deviant. Therefore, unless you wish to change your argument, my list was a 100% accurate representation of the closest thing you've made to an argument.
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Sigh. You changing your position constantly is made all the more frustrating by the lack of a good search function. I'm going to start inserting unique words into certain posts to you that I want to find again...

" No it doesn't mean that we have to make a baby every time we have sex, but that's the purpose of the sexual function.

Hence any deviation from that purpose is............deviant"

Luckily, I'm persistent. Any deviation from that purpose (That purpose referring to "Making a baby") is deviant. Therefore, unless you wish to change your argument, my list was a 100% accurate representation of the closest thing you've made to an argument.

LOL I hope you have no aspirations to become a lawyer!

Misquoting my posts and leaving out the parts you don't like makes you look rather a chump!

BTW are you a homosexual?
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1. What did I misquote?
2. What parts did I leave out that changed the nature of the post, gary?

This is the second time you've accused me of lying. You couldn't back up your assertion last time, either.

and no, I'm bisexual.
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...sex between two people of the same sex can NEVER result in new life, hence it is a deviation from the purpose of sex, so by definition, it's deviant and abnormal.
As far as we can tell, sex between two people of opposite sexes, whereby the female is age 70 years or older, can never result in "new life" either.

Hence, in order to be consistent, you would have to conclude that such acts of heterosexual sex are also "deviant and abnormal."
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I left women who have gone through menopause off my list, baloney. How insensitive of me, thanks.

Just to recap. According to Gary, the following are deviant:
1. Having sex with a condom.
2. Having sex with the woman on the pill.
3. Having sex with other contraceptive devices.
4. Infertile couples having sex.
5. Oral sex
6. Anal sex.
7. Fingering your wife to a beautiful orgasm.
8. Married couples who choose to have no kids in what many consider an overpopulated world.
9. Women who have gone through menopause and are still sexually active.

Wow! All these things are deviant. I guess everyone's just a little twisted.
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As far as we can tell, sex between two people of opposite sexes, whereby the female is age 70 years or older, can never result in "new life" either.

Hence, in order to be consistent, you would have to conclude that such acts of heterosexual sex are also "deviant and abnormal."
Not really. Men and women may have all kinds of medical conditions that prevent conception in specific cases. But the sexual instinct remains.

But the fact remains that a homosexual couple can NEVER produce a child.

That word was NEVER.

And that's why homosexual behaviour is deviant
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:00 PM   #69 (permalink)
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1. What did I misquote?
2. What parts did I leave out that changed the nature of the post, gary?

Just to be on the safe side, quote my statement in its entirety:

Nope. According to Gary none of those activities are necessarily deviant, and I have never suggested as such.

What I said was that the purpose of the sexual instinct is to ensure procreation, and that's why it's a pleasurable activity.

I never suggested that every act of sex should result in a new baby.

However, sex between two people of the same sex can NEVER result in new life, hence it is a deviation from the purpose of sex, so by definition, it's deviant and abnormal.

As for defining homosexuals in terms of their sexuality, this is a choice they make for themselves.

Why are you so scared to do that??
This is the second time you've accused me of lying. You couldn't back up your assertion last time, either.

and no, I'm bisexual.
If you're bisexual then you're also homosexual by definition - but also chronically confused.

Apparently another trait of homosexuality is to try and twist words and invert logic?


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I left women who have gone through menopause off my list, baloney. How insensitive of me, thanks.
No problem.

I just wonder how Gary is going to break the news to his parents or grandparents.
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