But, once again, and in order to remain consistent, you would have to conclude that any form of sex that can never produce a child would have to be deviant...and not just homosexual sex.

Thus, your parent's or grandparents sexual encounters, if your mother or grandmother is older than 70 years old, would have to also be considered "deviant"...since there hasn't been a single case, as far as we can tell, whereby a woman aged 70 years or older has become a biological mother.

*I'd add that I wouldn't consider my own parent's or grandparents sexual encounters as being "deviant." (Nor would I consider your own parent's or grandparent's sexual encounters as being "deviant.")

Gary: I'm not "scared" to do that. It's just not relevant. I posted the relevant sections. You haven't said where I misquoted you or changed your post. Those are serious charges on my honour, gary, something I take seriously. I suggest you address them.

By the way, I *did* notice that you posted your revised message that you rewrote to justify your prejudice. Just so that everyone can clearly see your dishonesty.

http://www.defendingthetruth.com/abo...tml#post161791 (Women on waves...)
"Not sure where you've been but that is exactly the point I was making, which you are now partially agreeing with.

Animals have a sexual instinct which is enjoyable in order to ensure procreation, just as we have taste buds to make eating enjoyable so we won't starve. Ands we have a sense of pain to avoid injuring ourselves.

No it doesn't mean that we have to make a baby every time we have sex, but that's the purpose of the sexual function.

Hence any deviation from that purpose is............deviant

or dysfunctional.

Just like trying to eat with your ears.

Try mutating on that for a while"

That is the post I accurately quoted and that you accused me of editing.

The one you posted was the one you revised when you realized that the one I'm quoting doesn't segregate hetero and homosexual sex enough for you to maintain your prejudice.

By definition, no, I'm not a homosexual. I may engage what can be referred to as homosexual activities. Modern usage of the word, however, denotes an exclusivity of sexual activity with one gender.

No need to thank me for clearing up your confusion.

You don't have to consider all forms of sex deviant if they don't result in procreation. Sex IS fun. It DOES feel good. But a human with the inborn instinct to partner pointing at the same gender, other species or pre-pubescent children is disordered. While the outward indication, the sex, is deviant, that's just the actions that result from the "f'd" up instinct in the first place. A human can choose to have sex with a tree or a dildo, but wanting to marry one because you "love" it would be a totally different issue. Your bullshit "any sex is deviant" is just another dodging bullshit simplistic argument to avoid the fact that no species on the planet has a real use for homosexuality. We only know that "it happens". Well so does siamese. And we can all agree that walking around with 2 heads might have its issues.

Fx: "Homosexuality is deviant because it's deviant".

Fail.

Next.

Actually, homosexuality plays a role-or, shall I say, "use"-in some species on this planet in the sense that it helps limit overcrowding within a population of those species.

And that's a fact, Jack.

Goodnight all...

Great post, but you can't talk about science with these people. They don't let silly things like "facts" get in the way of what they already know.

I like you.

I like you. It didn't even make that much sense, though.

While the [behavior] is deviant, that's just the [behavior] that result from the [deviancy] in the first place.

That's bullshit and you know it. There has been no confirmation of the number of homosexuals being controlled by population. The percentages would have to be variable with population for that to be the case. There are many other control factors available before that would be a factor. Additionally, males are effected by it more often than females. Just like all the other sexual dysfunction. If you are gonna control population, you would remove the actual breeders from the mix. Try again. You lose.