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Old 02-21-2008, 07:27 AM   #81 (permalink)
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While the [behavior] is deviant, that's just the [behavior] that result from the [deviancy] in the first place.
I don't know if you were correcting him or me...So I'll put it in another way.

It's deviant to want to have sex with animals before you even get to the actual sex part of the equation. If you look at a dog and get sexually aroused, you have a "f'd" up sexual drive. If you go ahead and have sex with said dog, that's a f'd up action that is the result of your "f'd" up sexual drive.

I hope that's a little more clear. A homosexual's f'd up sexual instinct causes him/her to do f'd up sexual things.
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:29 AM   #82 (permalink)
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Great post, but you can't talk about science with these people. They don't let silly things like "facts" get in the way of what they already know.
You can't talk science about homosexuality in the first place. "Science" doesn't have a clue about the how/why/what's about this. So your statement is BS implying that "science" will solve this issue.
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You can't talk science about homosexuality in the first place. "Science" doesn't have a clue about the how/why/what's about this. So your statement is BS implying that "science" will solve this issue.
I got nothing to add to this. You made my point very well.
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I don't know if you were correcting him or me...So I'll put it in another way.

It's deviant to want to have sex with animals before you even get to the actual sex part of the equation. If you look at a dog and get sexually aroused, you have a "f'd" up sexual drive. If you go ahead and have sex with said dog, that's a f'd up action that is the result of your "f'd" up sexual drive.

I hope that's a little more clear. A homosexual's f'd up sexual instinct causes him/her to do f'd up sexual things.
Thar ya go, talking about sex with animals again.
Old 02-21-2008, 03:34 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Gary: I'm not "scared" to do that. It's just not relevant. I posted the relevant sections. You haven't said where I misquoted you or changed your post. Those are serious charges on my honour, gary, something I take seriously. I suggest you address them.

I already addressed them by posting my original post in full. Every word in my posts is relevant, I don't need you to alter them to try and prove your unprovable case.



By definition, no, I'm not a homosexual. I may engage what can be referred to as homosexual activities. Modern usage of the word, however, denotes an exclusivity of sexual activity with one gender.

You mean the way "traditional marriage" denotes an exclusivity of man-woman unions?




No need to thank me for clearing up your confusion.
No confusion here sunshine - if you indulge in homosexual behaviour then you're a homosexual.
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Actually, homosexuality plays a role-or, shall I say, "use"-in some species on this planet in the sense that it helps limit overcrowding within a population of those species.

And that's a fact, Jack.

Goodnight all...
Maybe you were falling asleep when you posted that little gem.

The fact is nature already takes care of overcrowding via menopause - the example you yourself gave earlier - and disease, among other things.

Mankind helps avoid overcrowding by killing people in large numbers.

You don't have to be a homosexual to help avoid overcrowding, just use a condom with your female partner.
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The fact is nature already takes care of overcrowding via menopause - the example you yourself gave earlier - and disease, among other things.

Mankind helps avoid overcrowding by killing people in large numbers.

You don't have to be a homosexual to help avoid overcrowding, just use a condom with your female partner.
Perhaps there are other scenarios that contribute to limiting overcrowding in a population of a species.

But the simple fact remains that homosexuality also serves a useful role in helping to limit the overcrowding of a population of a species.
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Perhaps there are other scenarios that contribute to limiting overcrowding in a population of a species.

But the simple fact remains that homosexuality also serves a useful role in helping to limit the overcrowding of a population of a species.

Using that bizarre logic bestiality, necrophilia and blow-up dolls serve the same "useful" role.
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That's bullshit and you know it. There has been no confirmation of the number of homosexuals being controlled by population. The percentages would have to be variable with population for that to be the case. There are many other control factors available before that would be a factor. Additionally, males are effected by it more often than females. Just like all the other sexual dysfunction. If you are gonna control population, you would remove the actual breeders from the mix. Try again. You lose.
Perhaps reading comprehension isn't your forte. Nowhere in my post is it stated or even implied that the number of homosexuals within a population is somehow controlled by the size of a population.

You stated that "no species on the planet has a real use for homosexuality." Well, you are evidently wrong about this conclusion since homosexuality clearly plays a useful role in helping to limit the numbers within a population of some species, including the species, Homo Sapiens.

(Does your statement, "Try again. You lose," really seem to help boost your self-esteem...or something of that nature?)
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Using that bizarre logic bestiality, necrophilia and blow-up dolls serve the same "useful" role.
In the sense of population control in a population of a species experiencing overcrowding, bestiality, necrophilia and blow-up dolls, as well as homosexuality, all play "useful" roles in helping to limit overcrowding.

But, the term "useful," as used in this statement (above), doesn't have to have any moralistic connotations assigned to it...as you are apparently trying to do.

My statement is a simply an observation of objective facts.

And I, for one, do not view homosexuality as being immoral.

And there is nothing you can say or do that will change my opinion.

So, you will be wasting your time to believe and act as if you might be able to change my opinion.
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