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Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Old 02-27-2008, 04:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Hopefully Americans will think this through so that it will be clear whether most agree or disagree with that redefining of what marriage is. I disagree.
What difference should it make?

There are more people NOW in favor of gay marriage than approved of interracial marriages when SCOTUS declared the bans unconstitutional.

Does that mean that we shouldn't allow interracial marriages because most people didn't agree with it?

(Who marries what in India is hardly an issue in America)
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Old 02-27-2008, 05:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Hmm... the population was quite a bit smaller back then. When you say more people are, speaking simply in mere numbers, or percentage of the population that's in favor?

Furthermore, you're trying to make the comparison between race and gender identity, and suggesting (at least it sounds like it) there's discrimination.

With one there's a clear physiological distinction, with the other, not unless there's surgery involved. With the one the person is different because they're born that way. With the other, the person is different because they choose to be.

With interracial marriages, it's still one man and one woman. I think there's a difference to be drawn here.

With one case it's a matter of racial discrimination/bigotry, with the other a matter of changing the institution of marriage altogether.
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Hmm... the population was quite a bit smaller back then. When you say more people are, speaking simply in mere numbers, or percentage of the population that's in favor?

Furthermore, you're trying to make the comparison between race and gender identity, and suggesting (at least it sounds like it) there's discrimination.

With one there's a clear physiological distinction, with the other, not unless there's surgery involved. With the one the person is different because they're born that way. With the other, the person is different because they choose to be.

With interracial marriages, it's still one man and one woman. I think there's a difference to be drawn here.

With one case it's a matter of racial discrimination/bigotry, with the other a matter of changing the institution of marriage altogether.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:15 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Hmm... the population was quite a bit smaller back then. When you say more people are, speaking simply in mere numbers, or percentage of the population that's in favor?

of course it's a percentage - how do you think polls are gauged?!

Furthermore, you're trying to make the comparison between race and gender identity, and suggesting (at least it sounds like it) there's discrimination.

Of course there is discrimination - for both. And gender identity has nothing to do with gay issues.

With one there's a clear physiological distinction, with the other, not unless there's surgery involved. With the one the person is different because they're born that way. With the other, the person is different because they choose to be.

Choose? LOL You're wrong.

With interracial marriages, it's still one man and one woman. I think there's a difference to be drawn here.

The only reason there is a difference is because you are willing to accept one and not the other. The fact remains, more people are in favor of gay marriage now then there were of interracial marriage when the bans were declared unconstitutional. Is sexual orientation the same thing as race? Of course not. Is the ignorance that creates bigotry against both the same? Of course. And the same religious arguments were given for interracial marriage being wrong as are given for gay marriage.

With one case it's a matter of racial discrimination/bigotry, with the other a matter of changing the institution of marriage altogether.
As far as I know, there is no right, benefit, or responsibility that will change with gays given the right to marry. And the marriage vows themselves are exactly the same. I know that when I was given my civil union license, the questions and the form were exactly the same as for a marriage license.

Hardly changing very much about the institution.
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Huck has said he's in favour of the Marriage Amendment to protect traditional marriage constitutionally.

I think McCain supports it too.

McCain does not support the FMA...
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