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But let's compare that to laws banning gay marriage. Right now there are less than 10 countries in the entire world that allow "gay marriage" and there are several that will still execute a person for "being gay". Up until the 90's there we no such thing as "gay marriage" in the ENTIRE WORLD. So is your comparison valid? I can't see it. Quote:
Anti-miscegenation Laws - Encyclopedia of Arkansas Whereas allowing people afflicted with homosexuality to change the basic structure of marriage to allow for same gender unions to be recognized under the same name is unconscionable. Quote:
Don't forget to get back to me on "most of the world" had laws banning blacks from marrying whites. The laws in the U.S. forbid whites from marrying any other races, that's just the unpopular way of looking at it. So your assessment doesn't really even describe anti-miscegenation laws in the U.S. Last edited by fxashun; 03-19-2008 at 06:33 AM. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Can you name any other countries that had legal bans on interracial marriage apart from South Africa and the USA? Doggone it darn right you betcha bless your heart maverick | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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It's already here darling - men and women have exactly equal rights to marry, subject to the same qualifying criteria. Doggone it darn right you betcha bless your heart maverick | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| germany, israel, australia, new zealand and throughout the british empire there were laws regulating and restricting interracial marriage to at least some degree. china, india and the middle east have strong cultural and religious bans although they do not qualify as laws, except perhaps where sharia law is enforced. further, people everywhere have always seen interracial relationships as illegitimate or second rate, and less than pure same race relationships. the statistics on interracial marriages where they exist illustrate that it has historically been rare, and only recently has it become more acceptable. and the sky did not fall in, despite the doomsayers predictions. marriage continued despite the dire warnings that it was against nature, against god and against the prevailing culture. additionally, throughout europe, china, africa, and american indians, there has historically been acceptance and recognition of gay marriages. it was only with the spread of judeochristian religious intolerance that gay marriage has become seen as illegitimate. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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You are talking rubbish laddie! No wonder you are so conveniently vague! Doggone it darn right you betcha bless your heart maverick | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| this information is readily available in numerous places on line, in libraries and big books called encyclopaedias. look and you will find. it has been in the public domain for years, some of it decades. the fact that you do not know it is evidence enough that you do not know what you are talking about. the information is there for anyone to access. of course, you have not done so. if you had, you would not continue to hold your outdated, middle ages point of view. you probably only read information that you know you will agree with and refuse to look at anything that you might find challenging. you can do a simple search on google,or wikipedia, or read an encyclopaedia if you like. it will not take long to verify what i have said. you won't though. you will write off this entry as proof that you are right. but then, you write off every entry as proof that you are right. you arguments are old, have been debated for ages in numerous forums and have been found wanting. i am not the first person to tell you this. and i suspect i will not be the first person that you listen to either. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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most of the world had laws barring black and white relationships for centuries, because clearly blacks were an inferior race, interracial relationships were seen as destructive, unacceptable, socially frowned on at best and actively legislated against. You clearly pointed out "black people" specifically. Interracial marriage is one thing. Forbidding "Black people" is quite another. Quote:
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The best you can do is to say "the evidence for what I say is out there, it's up to you to find it"! At that rate you will never make President of the Oxford Union - mate! Doggone it darn right you betcha bless your heart maverick | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| i stand corrected on the issue of laws relating to interracial marriage. a few countries have had such laws. most have had a prevailing culture that made interracial marriage very uncommon anyway. the point to consider however is that the nature of marriage has changed in relation to interracial relationships. it was once uncommon, frowned on at best, shuned or banned outright at worst. but when society matured and interracial relationships became more common, we realised it was not an issue. this parallels the debate on gay marriage. and garysher, why would i bother providing you with any information? you provide very little in your posts, and when you have you have given sources biased beyond reason. and then been unable to defend it. and when i have directed you to sources, you have completely ignored me. in fact, the only time you have every ignored me is when i have directed you to independent objective information. that speaks volumes. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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