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Old 05-03-2008, 06:59 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Huh. So we have the physiological capacity for it but it's still unnatural? Since there's meaning behind all our body parts (apparently), then men are -supposed- to feel pleasure from their prostate, right? Doesn't the biology dictate that?
Just as our wrists aren't meant for slashing but people like to cut, and some people derive pleasure from having sex with children. The pleasure derived from the prostate is coincidental. There is no outward or inward indication that it is evolved to be a sexual pleasure center. Just as anti freeze being sweet is just a coincidence. Just feeling good is one aspect, but there are many others that homosexuality miss.

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So Biology 101 is your criteria for how humans are supposed to act. Gotcha.
In a nutshell, since I don't feel like typing a dissertation. Kinda like blood transports oxygen without getting into the mechanics of it.

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You're talking about sexual reproduction, not sex. Yes, it would be extremely unnatural for one men to get pregnant when he's been bottoming out for another man. Am I the first to break it to you that that's NOT what they're trying to accomplish?
It would be unnatural for a man to get pregnant under any circumstance. I don't know where the bottoming and you feeling that you're breaking any new ground here comes from.

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So how does your Biology 101 textbook explain that sex without the purpose of reproduction is unnatural? I mean, I'm sure the Pope would agree but I'd assumed we were both more rational than he is.
The biology textbook would deal with that as humans choosing to do stuff, not instinctual attraction. The concepts are different. I have the instinct to communicate. I choose to do it by computer. Choosing to have sex with a child is simple child molestion, falling in love with a child is the result of pedophila. Prisoners choose to have sex with other men because there are no women, homosexuals love other men even in the presence of women.

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I don't see any reason to. People's sexuality is hardly consistent. Everyone has certain kinks or pleasures. It's a jungle in there, fx, and sex with another man is just another facet. Saying that putting your dick in a woman's mouth is more natural than putting it in a man's mouth is silly. Why would it be?
A man can choose to "put his dick" anywhere he wants to. In a woman, dog, cat, picnic table, pocket pu$$y, his hand, a balloon, stockings, a dead horse, god the options are innumerable. But we are talking about something much deeper than just where a man puts his dick. If you think homosexuality is just "where a man puts his dick" maybe you are theone that needs help understanding what homosexuality is.

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Personally I think everyone is born basically bisexual and personal experience coupled with cultural expectations determine the rest. Look at the Emperors of China, any harem of old, the Greeks, etc. That's not an idea I expect you, or anyone else, to take up, though.
Or you can look at Islam today and come to a totally different conclusion. "Society" is capable of anything. Poor litmus.

Or in other words you won't answer my questions. Well I choose the same from now on. Saves a lot of typing.
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It would be unnatural for a man to get pregnant under any circumstance.
Thomas Beattie?
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Thomas Beattie?
If you consider that a man. Here an earlier picture.

Oprah Winfrey aired her exclusive People Magazine interview with "The World's First Pregnant Man" on April 3rd. Pregnant man Thomas Beatie was born a female whose birth name was Tracy Lagondino before it was legally changed.



Sorry doesn't fit my definition of "man".
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Yes, I know all that, I was simply using him as an example.
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Yes, I know all that, I was simply using him as an example.
You mean you were using HER as an example of a man becoming pregnant??!?
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Yes, I know all that, I was simply using him as an example.
Not a him. And if you think she IS a him, you need more help than we can provide in this setting.
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Not a him. And if you think she IS a him, you need more help than we can provide in this setting.
It's not at all surprising to me that an issue like gender identification is totally lost on you.
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well, actually they're right - this whole furor is stupid.

I don't care what she "identifies" as - she's a woman with a womb to carry a baby and a vagina through which to deliver it.

The news is making some kind of big deal about it as if a man is going to give birth to a biological child. It's not happening. A woman is having a baby.
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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
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It's not at all surprising to me that an issue like gender identification is totally lost on you.
You mean like a person being born a woman and having a half assed sex change is "my" problem? That kind of thinking got us the contrived homophobia bullshit.
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well, actually they're right - this whole furor is stupid.

I don't care what she "identifies" as - she's a woman with a womb to carry a baby and a vagina through which to deliver it.

The news is making some kind of big deal about it as if a man is going to give birth to a biological child. It's not happening. A woman is having a baby.
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