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Old 05-07-2008, 09:00 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Just as the whole world disagreed with homosexuality until the last decade.
just as the whole world though the earth was flat until we found out that it wasn't

just as the whole world thought the sun revolved around the earth until we found out it didn't

just as the whole world thought there were witches that climbed on brooms and flew through the skies until they found out they didn't

"just because" something was thought until it was disproved is no reason to prolong the ignorance ... that's the most absurd plea for ignorance and halt to education and knowledge I've ever read.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:20 AM   #82 (permalink)
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I can go down the list of all things that humans are supposed to do that is common sense. You can't support homosexuality from the purpose to the instinct to the evolved facilitation. Yet another example of homosexuality uniquely trying to pigeonhole itself into some resemblance of "normal". Too bad it doesn't pass the bigot logic test.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:24 AM   #83 (permalink)
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just as the whole world though the earth was flat until we found out that it wasn't
We have satellites now we know it's round.

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just as the whole world thought the sun revolved around the earth until we found out it didn't
See above. This is the now.

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just as the whole world thought there were witches that climbed on brooms and flew through the skies until they found out they didn't
The whole world? You sure? Some people didn't have brooms.

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"just because" something was thought until it was disproved is no reason to prolong the ignorance ... that's the most absurd plea for ignorance and halt to education and knowledge I've ever read.
But something that is obviously broken, and has very similar sister defects will have to be proven not broken. There's nothing about homosexuality that suggests it's not broken. Especially when we have an example of what does work happening in 99% of nature. And nothing has anything that is purely "homosexual by nature".
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:34 AM   #84 (permalink)
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But something that is obviously broken, and has very similar sister defects will have to be proven not broken. There's nothing about homosexuality that suggests it's not broken. Especially when we have an example of what does work happening in 99% of nature. And nothing has anything that is purely "homosexual by nature".
Okay, we could debate whether homosexuality is natural until we are all blue in the face. Does it really matter? It exists, and that is a fact. This board is for discussion on whether or not gays should be able to marry. You bigots use the "natural" issue as a red herring to derail the conversation, because you KNOW that there is no good logical reason to keep gays from marrying each other.
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Okay, we could debate whether homosexuality is natural until we are all blue in the face. Does it really matter? It exists, and that is a fact. This board is for discussion on whether or not gays should be able to marry. You bigots use the "natural" issue as a red herring to derail the conversation, because you KNOW that there is no good logical reason to keep gays from marrying each other.
No, I use natural as a reason it shouldn't. It's a disability. And while we do allow disabilities and assist people with them, nothing is based on a disabled condition. Such as homosexuality. It's a reality people are born without limbs, so we have ramps and elevators to help them. Some people are born attracted to their own gender, they should be given a suitable replacement for marriage to signify their union. But it ain't a marriage.
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But it ain't a marriage.
Then what is it, a carrot?
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the whole thing is stupid

we HAVE legal gay marriages in America right now - have for years now in MA

it's just a matter of time
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Then what is it, a carrot?
A mistake.
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the whole thing is stupid

we HAVE legal gay marriages in America right now - have for years now in MA

it's just a matter of time
I agree. But just because a society legalizes something doesn't make a legitimate or right. Just legal. Like zoophilia is now and pedo used to be.

In some countries gay people are still executed. That's the funny thing about how "legal" can differ across societal borders.
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
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In some countries gay people are still executed..
So are women that don't cover their legs.
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