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Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Old 05-13-2008, 01:37 PM   #131 (permalink)
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WHAT?!?!?! The government doesn't NOT recognize it either, dear.

There's a good example of your confused "opinions".

No wonder you are a bisexual wiccan.
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:26 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Did garysher ever post the link to validate his "there are millions of psychologists who disagree with that decision." statement?

I seem to have missed it.

Of course, I know that he likes to skip over those requests when he knows he's been caught in (another) lie.
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Old 05-13-2008, 06:56 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Is there a link that says there are "millions" of psychologists that feel homosexuality is normal? NARTH proves some professionals feel there is a problem. Unless you are gonna label every one of those people quacks. But then again, even in "the vote" there was a heft minority of people that disagreed with the majority of the minority that spent the time to vote.
I bet it wouldn't be very hard to find a good number of mental health professionals that find something amiss about homosexuality.
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:07 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Did garysher ever post the link to validate his "there are millions of psychologists who disagree with that decision." statement?
I was waiting for you to substantiate your claim that the APA had some scientific reason to think homosexuality is NOT a mental disorder.

Rather than just voting on what they felt, in their collective opinion.
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But changing to allow two of the same gender isn't a "change" it's an all-out reinvention. There's no more reason for that to happen than to allow any of the other obvious human sexual abnormalities to have their dysfunctional unions recognized. And calling it a "marriage" is absolutely ludicrous.
allowing a marriage to be terminated before death so the former partners can remarry is also an all out reinvention. but nobody seems to mind this one. calling ones 3rd or 4th marriage a marriage is equally ludicrous, when the vows are "till death do us part".
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allowing a marriage to be terminated before death so the former partners can remarry is also an all out reinvention. but nobody seems to mind this one. calling ones 3rd or 4th marriage a marriage is equally ludicrous, when the vows are "till death do us part".
Agreed.

How does this alter the veracity of my earlier statements?
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I was waiting for you to substantiate your claim that the APA had some scientific reason to think homosexuality is NOT a mental disorder.

Rather than just voting on what they felt, in their collective opinion.
i am getting thoroughly sick of telling you this, garysher, but YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN THESE LINKS, REPEATEDLY, AND YOU INGORE THEM!!!!

anyway, this thread is about marriage, remember?.

lets be very, very generous, and pretend for a moment that you are right, garysher. (you aren't, but for the sake of argument......)

there is no law forbidding the mentally ill from getting married. perhaps if you want to restrict marriage to the sane, you can petition governments to stop people with schiziphrenia from marrying. but if those aflicted with schizophrenia can marry, why not those "suffering" with homosexuality too?
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:41 PM   #138 (permalink)
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NARTH proves some professionals feel there is a problem.
some

(very very few)

not exactly MILLIONS, now is it?

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I was waiting for you to substantiate your claim that the APA had some scientific reason to think homosexuality is NOT a mental disorder.
well, rather than waiting, post the links to the information which I asked for first
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and homosexual marriage is illegal
Really? What if I fronted up to a Church with my girlfriend in tow and we got married in that Church, with the Priest/Reverend presiding over our union?
You mean to say the cops would knock down our doors and haul us off to prison and charge with marrying illegally?
Tell me how can they do this? If gay marriage is illegal, it isn't recognised by law, so how can gays be charged with getting married when the law doesn't recognise their union as such?
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