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Old 05-13-2008, 10:46 PM   #141 (permalink)
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The APA decided that homosexuality was not a mental disorder.
Which it isn't. Homosexuality is not something you can take a pill for and be 'cured'.

People who believe homosexuality is a mental disorder are suffering from a lack of understanding.
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:49 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Which it isn't. Homosexuality is not something you can take a pill for and be 'cured'.
That's not the test of whether something is a mental illness. You can take a pill for anything. And there are several mental illnesses that are incurable.
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(very very few)

not exactly MILLIONS, now is it?

I don't know? Do you know how many members and sympathizers NARTH has? I don't. What I do know is that even when the APA DID take a vote, it's not like they got anywhere near a unanimous result. "Science by vote" is a farce. Especially when the vote had such a sorry level of participation, and no real justification for the change other than "its not fair to gay people". That's bullshit.
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That's not the test of whether something is a mental illness. You can take a pill for anything. And there are several mental illnesses that are incurable.
I know that, but homosexuality is not a mental illness. Anyone who believes it is should have their head examined.

No pun intended.
Old 05-14-2008, 07:10 AM   #145 (permalink)
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no real justification for the change other than "its not fair to gay people"
it would seem that fxashun has developed the same deterioration of the brain that garysher is afflicted with ... they can't seem to remember information when it's given to them if it happens to be information with which they personally disagree.

The justification for the change has been posted here MYRIAD times - and to/for the same two people!

Let's take a different kind of vote: who thinks if I post the information AGAIN (for the gazillionth time), next week they'll be saying the same things again?
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Old 05-14-2008, 07:11 AM   #146 (permalink)
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I don't know
then why did you state it?
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I know that, but homosexuality is not a mental illness. Anyone who believes it is should have their head examined.

No pun intended.
Really? Maybe 69% of 2500 APA members?

Kinda makes you wonder who's minding the store.

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Old 05-14-2008, 07:14 AM   #148 (permalink)
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then why did you state it?
I don't know.
Old 05-14-2008, 07:21 AM   #149 (permalink)
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it would seem that fxashun has developed the same deterioration of the brain that garysher is afflicted with ... they can't seem to remember information when it's given to them if it happens to be information with which they personally disagree.

The justification for the change has been posted here MYRIAD times - and to/for the same two people!

Let's take a different kind of vote: who thinks if I post the information AGAIN (for the gazillionth time), next week they'll be saying the same things again?
But you see "science by vote" is rather stupid. And the result of "the vote" was hardly unanimous. And has not been backed up by an explanation of "why" we have decided that something as obviously deviant as homosexuality isn't still at least listed as a paraphilia. It fits the criteria.
Paraphilias
Cause having sex with a same gendered person is definitely unconventional for human physiology as we have evolved it. Someone needs to come up with a reason why we should separate this obvious aberrant behavior from the others in definitive terms.
And again, so far, all I have read is that it causes homosexuals difficulty in social situations to be considered disordered. Big whoop. So does a lot of crap that is still considered deviant. Such bullshit astounds.

I don't mind posting links supporting my opinion, if it comes up so many times, why don't you have yours in bookmarks? You seem to have a ton of worthless smilies and pictures. It would seem this information would be much more important to someone so passionate about a subject.

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Old 05-14-2008, 08:40 AM   #150 (permalink)
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In my own opinion, the only reason our side ever brings up the APA is to show that it is not an unmitigated fact that homosexuality is a mental illness, because many people who are trained to diagnose the mind don't see it as such. All it really does is diffuse the argument that it IS a mental illness, because if professionals in the mental health field have not reached a consensus on it, then a bunch of people debating it on an internet message board surely aren't going to either.

So my point is that you need to come up with another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry than the old "we shouldn't have to change marriage to suit someone's illness" line. It's old, doesn't hold even an ounce of water, and has been thoroughly and undeniably debunked.
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