So where is that science? All the "science" I've read points to a big gay question mark. I'd be more than willing to read the science that justifies homosexuality as a normal human variation. Starting with the purpose, how it happens, the cues for the hormonal changes, the physiological changes in the human body that facilitates it different from the normal human standard of heterosexuality, and the distinct biological differences of homosexuality from the other obvious sexual aberrations that scientists have somehow deemed NOT normal for humans. Good luck. Until then, the most compelling news about the APA vote that removed homosexuality from the list is how much of a fraud it was. And the lack of scientific justification presented at that time or since. Why don't you ply the APA web site for some scientific justification for that decision?

So they are lying on their website?

I'm sure you would.

In my world, humans do not have to justify their existence to ignorant bigots.

I'd like to see the "science" that proves that blacks are more than 2/3's of a person, but we seemed to get over that misconception pretty easily without doing "the science" on it.

And in mine, it's not justifying existence. It's just showing that that existence isn't the result of some error. When we have an example of how something works naturally, when we see something that is obviously f'd up and against that design, you better have some pretty compelling bullshit to go along with your assertion. So far I ain't seen it. And calling people bigot doesn't pass for scientific research.

a) it has nothing to do with the issue of marriage

b) calling bigots 'bigot' is simply stating the truth - albeit it the obvious truth

I'd like to see the science that shows we are 2/3rds of a person. They might have a good idea. And them I'd like to know how being mulatto changes the ratio. And then I'd like to see the ratio for Asian people and white people. Then I'd like to see where Hispanics fit into that mix. And what about a country that is just mixed heritage people. That 2/3rds thing sounds like a bit of a misconception since race isn't really a definable quality.

Also, that 2/3rds was only in the U.S. Homosexuality is pretty much f'd up species wide. But I'd be more than happy to discuss the 2/3rds thing if you start a thread about it.

But to preface it I'd like to start by stating...
DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another.

Hope that clears that right up for ya.

tigerwiccan - I don't think that because fxashun has only 2/3 of a human brain, that all African Americans can be considered to be 2/3 of a human.

If stating my opinion and justifying it with relevant corroborating fact. If that makes me a bigot, then goddamit I'm a bigot. Sue me. But telling me something without a good reason "why" ain't gonna cut it. But you are welcome to have the unfounded opinion that anyone who find homosexuality aberrant is a bigot, and I have the same right to find that the unnatural, sterile, deviant homosexual variant isn't an evolved trait for normal humans.

If we can judge all African Americans by one person, I'll just judge all gay men by Jeffrey Dahmer. Sick bastards.

as I said - because you're a lousy example of African American manhood and intelligence doesn't mean that all African American men follow your lousy example