Is it possible to just debate gay marriage itself?

Tigerwiccan · 05-09-2008, 09:14 AM

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No, not because I say so, but because it is and can be shown to a 3 year old. As simple as telling the difference between a male and female, which can also be f'd up during gestation. Do we NEED a diagram and scientific documentation to verify that a person born with male genitalia but "thinks" he is a female is kinda screwed. Mentally or physically? Really doesn't matter to make that determination...it's just f'd up. Period.

Maybe it's "obvious" to you if you are just looking at the physical. But if you see people as more than just their physical bodies, than more ideas open up to you, and you start to realise that there is more going on.

Do you believe in the soul or spirit? If you do, then it's not so far fetched that someone's body could be male, but their soul or spirit is that of a female or more female than male oriented. That could explain homosexuality AND gender dysphoria.

Of course the medical community only looks at the outside physical manifestation, so it is natural that people who don't believe in anything beyond would think that it is just unnatural or wrong to be a certain way.

pensacola_niceman · 05-09-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan

Maybe it's "obvious" to you if you are just looking at the physical. But if you see people as more than just their physical bodies, than more ideas open up to you, and you start to realise that there is more going on.

Do you believe in the soul or spirit? If you do, then it's not so far fetched that someone's body could be male, but their soul or spirit is that of a female or more female than male oriented. That could explain homosexuality AND gender dysphoria.

Of course the medical community only looks at the outside physical manifestation, so it is natural that people who don't believe in anything beyond would think that it is just unnatural or wrong to be a certain way.

Perhaps if would discontinue the practice of humping oak trees and picnic tables we would all lend more credance into your posts.

Tigerwiccan · 05-09-2008, 09:22 AM

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Perhaps if would discontinue the practice of humping oak trees and picnic tables we would all lend more credance into your posts.

I had a manage a trois with a tree AND a picnic table! But the tree got jealous and packed its trunk and left...

*budump bum*

fxashun · 05-09-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan

Maybe it's "obvious" to you if you are just looking at the physical. But if you see people as more than just their physical bodies, than more ideas open up to you, and you start to realise that there is more going on.

Do you believe in the soul or spirit? If you do, then it's not so far fetched that someone's body could be male, but their soul or spirit is that of a female or more female than male oriented. That could explain homosexuality AND gender dysphoria.

Of course the medical community only looks at the outside physical manifestation, so it is natural that people who don't believe in anything beyond would think that it is just unnatural or wrong to be a certain way.

That's some serious wishful thinking you got going on there. You are the textbook delusional case. But then again, I guess you wouldn't agree with that assessment since we are only looking at outward appearance of delusional wishful thinking instead of taking into account your "soul and spirit" which really believes there's an undiscovered reason for gay.

I do believe in a soul and a spirit, but even in that case, when a male spirit f's up and drops into a female body, that's f'd up. We live in more than one dimension you know. And interact with each other mostly physically. If you are physically a male, I don't care if your brain says female, you still gots a hoo-hoo not a hee-hee. You're f'd, or not as the case may be.

pensacola_niceman · 05-09-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan

I had a manage a trois with a tree AND a picnic table! But the tree got jealous and packed its trunk and left...

*budump bum*

The tree is a bit more "natural" I would say. Picnic tables don't often occur in nature.

Tigerwiccan · 05-09-2008, 09:36 AM

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That's some serious wishful thinking you got going on there. You are the textbook delusional case. But then again, I guess you wouldn't agree with that assessment since we are only looking at outward appearance of delusional wishful thinking instead of taking into account your "soul and spirit" which really believes there's an undiscovered reason for gay.

I do believe in a soul and a spirit, but even in that case, when a male spirit f's up and drops into a female body, that's f'd up. We live in more than one dimension you know. And interact with each other mostly physically. If you are physically a male, I don't care if your brain says female, you still gots a hoo-hoo not a hee-hee. You're f'd, or not as the case may be.

So what about what I said is delusional? If you agree that there is a soul, and you agree that it's possible a male body can posess a female soul, then you agree with everything I was trying to say.

pensacola_niceman · 05-09-2008, 09:38 AM

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So what about what I said is delusional? If you agree that there is a soul, and you agree that it's possible a male body can posess a female soul, then you agree with everything I was trying to say.

Yeah, that would mean the male body is capable of wearing high heals.

Tigerwiccan · 05-09-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pensacola_niceman

The tree is a bit more "natural" I would say. Picnic tables don't often occur in nature.

Tell that to the NAAPT (National Association for the Advancement of Picnic Tables) or NAPTLA (North American Picnic Table Love Association).

But don't offend them or they will send the PTLU (Picnic Table Liberties Union) after you.

Tigerwiccan · 05-09-2008, 09:43 AM

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Yeah, that would mean the male body is capable of wearing high heals.

Actually, you'd be surprised what the male body is capable of.

garysher · 05-09-2008, 12:31 PM

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So what about what I said is delusional? If you agree that there is a soul, and you agree that it's possible a male body can posess a female soul, then you agree with everything I was trying to say.

First you have to believe that souls have a gender - why do you think that?

Then you have to overcome the fact that a human body is either male or female, de facto, regardless of what some wacko wiccan thinks is going on inside that might make him the opposite gender.