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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan  Maybe it's "obvious" to you if you are just looking at the physical. But if you see people as more than just their physical bodies, than more ideas open up to you, and you start to realise that there is more going on.
Do you believe in the soul or spirit? If you do, then it's not so far fetched that someone's body could be male, but their soul or spirit is that of a female or more female than male oriented. That could explain homosexuality AND gender dysphoria.
Of course the medical community only looks at the outside physical manifestation, so it is natural that people who don't believe in anything beyond would think that it is just unnatural or wrong to be a certain way. |
No wonder you were embarrassed about trying to explain wacky wiccanism!
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Originally Posted by garysher First you have to believe that souls have a gender - why do you think that?
Then you have to overcome the fact that a human body is either male or female, de facto, regardless of what some wacko wiccan thinks is going on inside that might make him the opposite gender. | Well, I believe in reincarnation, so if you have been a man in more lives than a woman, then when you are born as a woman, you might feel like you are supposed to be a man. Or you might just have an attraction to women. Or if they have been about even you might be bisexual. Makes sense to me, but I'm sure you'll just call it wacky. | |
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Originally Posted by garysher No wonder you were embarrassed about trying to explain wacky wiccanism! | Nope not embarrassed, just not arsed to explain it to someone that just wants to blast it. | |
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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan Well, I believe in reincarnation, so if you have been a man in more lives than a woman, then when you are born as a woman, you might feel like you are supposed to be a man. Or you might just have an attraction to women. Or if they have been about even you might be bisexual. Makes sense to me, but I'm sure you'll just call it wacky. | Yes. It's wacky.
Even if we are reincarnated we cannot remember anything from our previous existencies.
And even if we could why would that influence our sexuality in this lifetime??
You guys make up crap to try and justify anything!!
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Originally Posted by garysher Yes. It's wacky.
Even if we are reincarnated we cannot remember anything from our previous existencies.
And even if we could why would that influence our sexuality in this lifetime??
You guys make up crap to try and justify anything!! | Because we all have a "higher self" that DOES remember all of our lives and influences, at the very least, what we do in our current one.
Oh, and homosexuality requires no justification. | |
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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan Because we all have a "higher self" that DOES remember all of our lives and influences, at the very least, what we do in our current one.
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Is that the same "higher self" that forgets to pay the ER bill?
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Originally Posted by garysher Is that the same "higher self" that forgets to pay the ER bill? | Nope, it's the higher self that is not even concerned with such things as the ER bill. | |
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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan Nope, it's the higher self that is not even concerned with such things as the ER bill. | Actually TW, you'd be wrong...Because it's one's actions in this lifetime (or previous lifetimes), that determine where your 'higher self' finds itself in it's new re-incarnation...
So yes, your higher self is concerned of how you act in one life, in order to determine where you proceed in the next. It is through perfect living, that one's higher self progresses to it's highest point...That of not re-incarnating again because it's reached 'perfection of spirit'. | |
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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan Nope, it's the higher self that is not even concerned with such things as the ER bill. |
How convenient.
But how does that "jive" with the wiccan creed about not harming others?
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Originally Posted by garysher How convenient.
But how does that "jive" with the wiccan creed about not harming others? | Because the Wiccan REDE is about TRYING not to harm others. Sometimes we don't really have a choice. If I had the money to pay my ER bill, I would.
Besides, how did this topic and two others become about why I don't pay a medical bill? I'm done talking about that. | |
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