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Old 05-27-2008, 07:11 PM   #391 (permalink)
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Interesting how a vacation picture of someone's partner immediately gets you to thinking about what happens in their bedroom...

Funny, but whenever I see a picture of other's partners...Whether it's hetrosexual or homosexual couples...The last thing I'm thinking about is what they may/may not be doing in the bedroom...Rather then reply with 'hey, do you perfer top or bottom in the bed', I reply usually with 'hey, the person in the picture really looks like they were enjoying themselves and the scenery there is breathtaking'.
Really? 'Cause most of the time when I see a picture of a man's wife my first thought is something like" "Man, I can't believe you put you dick in that!"

Or, if she is hot: "You sure are lucky to get to put your dick in that!"

You sure are weird, Ali. I mean all the normal people think about other people's sex lives all the time, day and night, 24/7.
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Old 05-27-2008, 07:16 PM   #392 (permalink)
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No Ali, I did not even see a picture. I only responded to your saying that one should not lie about their orientation.

I don't think about what others do privately at all. I find that intrusive. As much as others pushing that kind of talk.

Lying is not the same as telling the truth when appropriate. Again, let the children hear. They are listening.

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No, you responded to the 'family picture' portion, of which I responded to...

Sorry, but a family picture DOES NOT discuss who's 'dominate' or 'submissive', as you put it.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with a person, whether they're hetrosexual or homosexual, showing a picture of their significant other and when asked 'who's that in the picture' saying 'that's my partner when we were vacationing here/doing this or that'...

But YOU'VE got to throw in sexual acts...Which have not a thing to do with orientation. S&M isn't an orientation.

You can look at a picture of a hetrosexual and not have a clue what their sexual life is in the bedroom nor would you make such a comment about thier bedroom activities...Let alone you really wouldn't care to begin with what goes on in their bedrooms as long as you're not directly involved. But mention being open about homosexual relationships and you are suddenly throwing in different sexual activities in regards to said 'family pictures' when you similarily aren't involved in their sexual lives?

Like I said...Bigots and homophobes focus only on what may/may not happen in the bedrooms of those they are threatened by.


Thank you for proving my point OD by your obsession of what they may or may not be doing in the privacy of their bedrooms.
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Really? 'Cause most of the time when I see a picture of a man's wife my first thought is something like" "Man, I can't believe you put you dick in that!"

Or, if she is hot: "You sure are lucky to get to put your dick in that!"

You sure are weird, Ali. I mean all the normal people think about other people's sex lives all the time, day and night, 24/7.
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There's a problem with your anology there Zack...Although public intoxication may be illegal...Being homosexual IS NOT ILLEGAL...So comparing the two doesn't work.

Not unless you are suggesting with that anology, that you believe that people should be prosecuted for their orientation now?

Secondly...Referring to someone's partner as 'my roommate' in regards to FAMILY PICTURES is perpetuating a lie about someone's relationship with another...

You aren't supporting people LIE about themselves or others just to make a bigot feel secure, do you?

Because I personally do have a problem with insisting others lie about their personal life and have a problem with people who feel they have the right to tell others to lie just so they can feel more secure about their own orientation...
You missed the point about the beer law, here goes, at Ft. Bragg NC on the south side is Fayetteville and topless dancers and bars line the streets but on the north side the county is dry and you cannot purchase beer or any other alcohol in the county other than in a government store. The mob decides that it is of poor morals to openly display a can of beer regardless if you drink it or not. Did the north side take away my rights? If I'm religious and find the law just do I feel it is my right to force the south side to close shop? The mob rules and not the individual or minority. All Blue Laws are created by the mob and not the minority that are often offended by them. So, the people living in Blue Law districts either agree to that norm or they move to a district where their norm is the norm. Is that complicated? If you leave Dallas TX going east you can drive three hours where the norm is exactly like the county to the north of Ft. Bragg... are all of these citizens being abused by the mob?

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Gay persons deserve compassion because it is not their fault they were born defected, humans are compassionate and do not kill offspring with birth defects. A good test to see if other people think gays are normal is to go to a maternity ward and seek out a proud new father and tell him I hope your child grows up to be gay because they are such fun outgoing colorful people... when you don't get your butt handed to you you are normally accepted, until then you're abnormal. Try it out and get back with me.
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No, you responded to the 'family picture' portion, of which I responded to...

Sorry, but a family picture DOES NOT discuss who's 'dominate' or 'submissive', as you put it.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with a person, whether they're hetrosexual or homosexual, showing a picture of their significant other and when asked 'who's that in the picture' saying 'that's my partner when we were vacationing here/doing this or that'...

But YOU'VE got to throw in sexual acts...Which have not a thing to do with orientation. S&M isn't an orientation.

You can look at a picture of a hetrosexual and not have a clue what their sexual life is in the bedroom nor would you make such a comment about thier bedroom activities...Let alone you really wouldn't care to begin with what goes on in their bedrooms as long as you're not directly involved. But mention being open about homosexual relationships and you are suddenly throwing in different sexual activities in regards to said 'family pictures' when you similarily aren't involved in their sexual lives?

Like I said...Bigots and homophobes focus only on what may/may not happen in the bedrooms of those they are threatened by.


Thank you for proving my point OD by your obsession of what they may or may not be doing in the privacy of their bedrooms.
Well I am sorry. I misunderstood. I did not see any picture. I thought it was just setting up an example. I have no problem with people saying "partner" instead of roommate. Or even spouse, if that is what they are living as. I am not promoting lying about what they are to each other.


I am not proving your point, nor obsessed with sex...anyones.

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Old 05-27-2008, 07:32 PM   #396 (permalink)
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Well I am sorry. I misunderstood. I did not see any picture. I thought it was just setting up an example. I have no problem with people saying "partner" instead of roommate. Or even spouse, if that is what they are living as. I am not promoting lying about what they are to each other.


I am not proving your point, nor obsessed with sex...anyones.

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By all means OD...Now backtrack from what you originaly said...

You read Zack's post...Even commented on his post...The one I also responded to about his 'hypothetical' picture comment...So now trying to claim 'I didn't see the picture' when you KNOW it's a HYPOTHETICAL picture being discussed?

Just how desperate have you become now in pretending this level of 'unawareness' you claim you have about things being discussed?

The fact is, you didn't misunderstand a thing...You made blatant remarks to professed sex acts in regards to my 'family pictures' comment. And as such, you proved my point perfectly.
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Well Ali, I apologized when I felt I errored in understanding the discussion.

I still cannot find the pictures.

And the deal is, I said I was sorry. I fail to see why you want to tell me I understood. If I did, I would not be sorry.

Accepting apologies is difficult?

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Being gay is being born with a birth defect in as much that it was not nature's norm to create an abnormal offspring. In nature gay creatures are killed by the natural selection in the wild. There are gay living animals in domestic situations but in raw nature they all are killed.

Gay persons deserve compassion because it is not their fault they were born defected, humans are compassionate and do not kill offspring with birth defects. A good test to see if other people think gays are normal is to go to a maternity ward and seek out a proud new father and tell him I hope your child grows up to be gay because they are such fun outgoing colorful people... when you don't get your butt handed to you you are normally accepted, until then you're abnormal. Try it out and get back with me.
Goddam Zack that's a great little anecdote you got there. You don't mind if I use it elsewhere do ya?
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You missed the point about the beer law, here goes, at Ft. Bragg NC on the south side is Fayetteville and topless dancers and bars line the streets but on the north side the county is dry and you cannot purchase beer or any other alcohol in the county other than in a government store. The mob decides that it is of poor morals to openly display a can of beer regardless if you drink it or not. Did the north side take away my rights? If I'm religious and find the law just do I feel it is my right to force the south side to close shop? The mob rules and not the individual or minority. All Blue Laws are created by the mob and not the minority that are often offended by them. So, the people living in Blue Law districts either agree to that norm or they move to a district where their norm is the norm. Is that complicated? If you leave Dallas TX going east you can drive three hours where the norm is exactly like the county to the north of Ft. Bragg... are all of these citizens being abused by the mob?

Being gay is being born with a birth defect in as much that it was not nature's norm to create an abnormal offspring. In nature gay creatures are killed by the natural selection in the wild. There are gay living animals in domestic situations but in raw nature they all are killed.

Gay persons deserve compassion because it is not their fault they were born defected, humans are compassionate and do not kill offspring with birth defects. A good test to see if other people think gays are normal is to go to a maternity ward and seek out a proud new father and tell him I hope your child grows up to be gay because they are such fun outgoing colorful people... when you don't get your butt handed to you you are normally accepted, until then you're abnormal. Try it out and get back with me.
I didn't miss you point at all...What you are discussing is what's illegal one place, but not in another place...The fact that now you want to discuss sides of the street where one activity is legal but illegal on the otherside is just changing your earlier comment about 'different areas of the nation' to 'different areas of a city'...

You're still discussing what's LEGAL VERSUS ILLEGAL, depending on location. And as such, homosexuality IS NOT ILLEGAL anymore in our nation.

Secondly, it's your OPINION that homosexuality is a defect...Opinion is just that...Opinion. Not fact, but OPINION.

So throwing in the words 'defect' and 'abnormal' again have no relevance to the discussion you are trying to start now. Because it's OPINION, not fact.

And as a parent, last thing I cared about was what my childrens' orientations would be...All that mattered to me as a parent was that they were healthy, loved, and have a wonderful life. Unlike you, IF my children had been homosexual, I wouldn't have seen it as a defect or an issue or see it as a problem...

My children wouldn't have had a problem...Bigots and homophobes like yourself would have had the problem and been a problem for my children if they'd been homosexual.

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Well Ali, I apologized when I felt I errored in understanding the discussion.

I still cannot find the pictures.

And the deal is, I said I was sorry. I fail to see why you want to tell me I understood. If I did, I would not be sorry.

Accepting apologies is difficult?

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Do you know what 'hypothetical' means OD?

IF you do...then what does 'hypothetical family pictures' mean?

You KNEW we weren't talking about real pictures...Just like your hypothetical 'doms and subs' comment wasn't a discussion about 'real pictures'...So stop playing the stupid game and playing 'I can't find the pictures' when you know darn well that there wasn't any pictures to begin with and that the conversation was revolving around Zack's make-believe fantasies about calling someone's spouse a 'room mate'.
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