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Old 05-20-2008, 12:53 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Gary, just get with the groove. We all know the ideal situation for a kid is one man and one woman as biological parents. IN cases where biology interferes, there are many adoptive avenues that are acceptable. Gay people are not the ones fucking things up. It is the black community that is making all these unfathered babies. It's also blacks that are largely responsible for crack babies. Call me racist all you want, I am only stating the facts.

We should be happy about the responisible gay people who qualify to adopt children. After all, it's the fuck-ups of straight people who created the problem in the first place.

If you really want to put a button on who is most responsible for creating fucked-up kids with no fathers - look at the black people. Yeah, I know how racist it sounds - but it is true.
I was talking about couples who are married for years, have children, then one of them suddenly discovers they are homosexual.

Different situation to what you are describing.

The point about adopting children is that the authorities who choose the adoptive parents have the ability and the responsibility to choose the best possible parents for the child. I fully agree that doesn't always happen naturally.

But by giving children to homosexuals the authorities are going against what's best for the child - the ideal situation you described - and buckling to political pressures from the homosexual lobby.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:57 PM   #132 (permalink)
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But by giving children to homosexuals the authorities are going against what's best for the child - the ideal situation you described - and buckling to political pressures from the homosexual lobby.
No, the authorities are doing what is best for the child.

The number of heterosexual couples that wish to foster or adopt older children are few and far between. So, the choices for them are to either stay in the overburdened foster care system or go to loving homosexual families.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:02 PM   #133 (permalink)
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But by giving children to homosexuals the authorities are going against what's best for the child - the ideal situation you described - and buckling to political pressures from the homosexual lobby.
Last time I heard, one lady on this board and her wife's adopted child is very happy with both of her adopted moms. Better for the child to have two loving adopted moms than live in state-run care.
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:22 PM   #134 (permalink)
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ahhhhhhh

OhDear got dumped by her eternal love? - again?

No wonder she's got such a nasty disposition lately. That explains a lot.

Maybe she should think about getting NICER and not MEANER if she wants to keep a man around? Just a suggestion - but I have kept a man around for over 35 years, so I know a little about it!
Making up lies about me again! That is cos you cannot stick to the topic and clearly share your position in light of the moral standards that speak out against your personal societal deviation.

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No, the authorities are doing what is best for the child.

The number of heterosexual couples that wish to foster or adopt older children are few and far between.

Do you have any evidence for this or is it one of those "opinions" you mentioned??




So, the choices for them are to either stay in the overburdened foster care system or go to loving homosexual families.

Even you portray giving children to homosexuals as next to the last resort
Old 05-20-2008, 01:52 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Do you have any evidence for this or is it one of those "opinions" you mentioned??
Nearly One Quarter of Foster Care Children Are Waiting for Adoptive Families
In 1999, the latest year for which totals have been finalized, there were about 581,000 children in foster care in the United States.[1] Twenty-two percent of these children -- about 127,000 kids -- were available for adoption.[2]

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If there were plenty of heterosexual families willing to adopt, why would there be so many kids available?


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Even you portray giving children to homosexuals as next to the last resort
No, not the last resort. Simply that homosexuals are willing to look past the fact that they aren't getting a blue eyed blonde haired healthy 1 month old baby and are willing to give a home to any child that needs one.
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Are we to still believe that most parents that pursue adoption are in this mode of "selection"?

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No, not the last resort. Simply that homosexuals are willing to look past the fact that they aren't getting a blue eyed blonde haired healthy 1 month old baby and are willing to give a home to any child that needs one.
I know several families that have adopted, and none of them were so shallow as that. In fact, none of them...

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Are we to still believe that most parents that pursue adoption are in this mode of "selection"?



I know several families that have adopted, and none of them were so shallow as that. In fact, none of them...

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So, then, please explain why there are over 100,000 children in the system?

The fact is, most people want BABIES, or at least small children. Once they turn 10-12, most people don't want them anymore.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:33 PM   #139 (permalink)
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Last time I heard, one lady on this board and her wife's adopted child is very happy with both of her adopted moms. Better for the child to have two loving adopted moms than live in state-run care.
better happy with two moms than with two opposite gender bigot parents

wait - there is no "better" - if every child was given the ideal advantage in upbringing, nobody except white, heterosexual, Christian, upper middle class parents would be allowed to have children.
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