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Old 05-20-2008, 12:15 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Because children are innately accepting and bigotry such as yours has to be taught.


Where do you get the idea that children are "innately accepting"? Why do you think they will accept that one or both of their parents let them done?

Why do you think they will accept that kind of rejection and deprivation of love from the two people who brought them into the world?

The vast majority of children who end up drifting into gangs and a career in prison come from single parent homes with no father figure around. That's where "innately accepting" takes kids.

Parenting has a deep-seated and permanent effect on the lives of children throughout their lives. Trying to pretend that "they'll get over it" is cruel and mindless.






As far as daddy 'pushing his schlong', sorry to inform you, gary, but there are more heterosexual men obsessed with anal sex then you can imagine.
I defer to your greater experience on that subject.

But don't try to tell me that the child of a newly-declared homosexual mother or father doesn't have to go through hell at school and with their peers.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:18 PM   #122 (permalink)
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single family homes have nothing in common with two parent households

d'uh
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:21 PM   #123 (permalink)
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single family homes have nothing in common with two parent households

d'uh
I assume you mean single parent not single family?

When one or other parent decides to become a homosexual a two parent household quickly becomes a one parent household.

Children of single parents do far worse than those with two parents, mostly due to simple economics.

And most gang members come from single mother households.

Check the US Census website
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Where do you get the idea that children are "innately accepting"? Why do you think they will accept that one or both of their parents let them done?
Because they are. Bigotry is taught.

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I defer to your greater experience on that subject.

But don't try to tell me that the child of a newly-declared homosexual mother or father doesn't have to go through hell at school and with their peers.
And they wouldn't if the bigotry wasn't taught to their peers.

Having a father around has little to do whether they are homo- or heterosexual.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:24 PM   #125 (permalink)
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I assume you mean single parent not single family?

When one or other parent decides to become a homosexual a two parent household quickly becomes a one parent household.

Children of single parents do far worse than those with two parents, mostly due to simple economics.

And most gang members come from single mother households.

Check the US Census website
Not so with my nephew. His mother (my older sister) raised him after she and her husband divorced. With the assistance of the rest of my family: father, my younger sister and her husband then, and me, he is now a fine man with a very good family, and a really good career, too.

He has two college degrees, too.

Sometimes it takes a village to raise a child.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:25 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Because they are. Bigotry is taught.



And they wouldn't if the bigotry wasn't taught to their peers.

By bigotry you mean anything that you disagree with? Or is it a convenient way to avoid guilt and responsibility?

And why would it be bigoted for a child to resent being abandoned by one or both parents?
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By bigotry you mean anything that you disagree with? Or is it a convenient way to avoid guilt and responsibility?


No, dear. Bigotry = 1 : the state of mind of a bigot 2 : acts or beliefs characteristic of a bigot bigotry - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance bigot - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

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And why would it be bigoted for a child to resent being abandoned by one or both parents?
Why do you assume that because a parent comes out of the closet and leaves his/her spouse because of that the child is abandoned?
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:43 PM   #128 (permalink)
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I assume you mean single parent not single family?

When one or other parent decides to become a homosexual a two parent household quickly becomes a one parent household.

Children of single parents do far worse than those with two parents, mostly due to simple economics.

And most gang members come from single mother households.

Check the US Census website
Gary, just get with the groove. We all know the ideal situation for a kid is one man and one woman as biological parents. IN cases where biology interferes, there are many adoptive avenues that are acceptable. Gay people are not the ones fucking things up. It is the black community that is making all these unfathered babies. It's also blacks that are largely responsible for crack babies. Call me racist all you want, I am only stating the facts.

We should be happy about the responisible gay people who qualify to adopt children. After all, it's the fuck-ups of straight people who created the problem in the first place.

If you really want to put a button on who is most responsible for creating fucked-up kids with no fathers - look at the black people. Yeah, I know how racist it sounds - but it is true.
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:50 PM   #129 (permalink)
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No, dear. Bigotry = 1 : the state of mind of a bigot 2 : acts or beliefs characteristic of a bigot bigotry - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance bigot - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

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So a homosexual who "obstinately or intolerantly" pursues the opinions and prejudices of the homosexual community is also a bigot?





Why do you assume that because a parent comes out of the closet and leaves his/her spouse because of that the child is abandoned?
Because, my dear, that is exactly what has happened.

abandon
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1 desert or leave permanently.
2 give up (an action or practice) completely

Are you really so myopic as to think children don't realise this?
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:53 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Because, my dear, that is exactly what has happened.

abandon
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1 desert or leave permanently.
2 give up (an action or practice) completely

Are you really so myopic as to think children don't realise this?
Why are you assuming the homosexual parent is deserting or leaving permanently or giving up completely?

Are you so bigotted that you make those assumptions?
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