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Old 05-26-2008, 09:30 AM   #91 (permalink)
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You know my opinion, which one of those refutes it and shows homosexuality as a biologically intended and evolutionary facilitated human/animal/complex living creature situation.
I'm curious, which form of sexuality are intersexuals "biologically intended" to undertake?
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Old 05-26-2008, 12:46 PM   #92 (permalink)
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I'm curious, which form of sexuality are intersexuals "biologically intended" to undertake?
Good question. But that's assuming that I think humans are supposed to "be" intersexed...which I don't. It's just another gestational screw up.
Old 05-26-2008, 04:41 PM   #93 (permalink)
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What was the point of publishing a bunch of titles to documents that are inaccessible??!

to demonstrate what the scientific literature is discussing. and to demonstrate that the information opposing the naturalness of homosexuality is NOT informed by any reliable evidence. and to demonstrate that the information you might find on google is somewhat unreliable and unvetted for accuracy. these links i presented are accessable if you bother to take the time to go to a library or you have access yourself to subscription on line sources. it may take a bit more work, but if you would rather get informed through google searches and reading any crap anyone can post on any website without having to justify it, go for it.

Yeah right


Are you trying to reverse millenia of human wisdom by trying to convince us that homosexuality isn't a dysfunction after all?

this is the nature of scientific progress. the evidence mounts that shows the conventional wisdom is flawed, a new paradigm is introduced that is consistent with the evidence.

if we refused to ever reverse years of human wisdom, we would still be saying blacks were an inferior species, women were inherently unintelligent, the earth is flat, flying machines are impossible.

do you want me to continue with examples of things people have always thought were true that were wrong?

anyway, there was no need for a reversal of millenia of human wisdom, just a reversal of the last few centuries of christian driven cultural norms.
So you really think that publishing a list of titles such as:

Finger length ratio (2D:4D) and dimensions of sexual orientation.

is supposed to convince us that homosexuality is somehow NOT deviant and has a purpose?

You are just the kind of gullible goon every car salesman hopes will wander on to his lot.


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is supposed to convince us that homosexuality is somehow NOT deviant and has a purpose?

What is the purpose of heterosexuality? To over populate the Earth when dillweeds like you are having 3,4, 5 or 16 children per male female coupling. Some how you seem to think you are special yet your attitude could actualy be the death of humankind.
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What is the purpose of heterosexuality?

Perhaps you need to ask your parents that question?



To over populate the Earth when dillweeds like you are having 3,4, 5 or 16 children per male female coupling. Some how you seem to think you are special yet your attitude could actualy be the death of humankind.
Actually I have two children, (not 16) both wonderful individuals and great assets to their generation.
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Perhaps you need to ask your parents that question?


They were in love and enjoyed each others company


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Actually I have two children, (not 16) both wonderful individuals and great assets to their generation.
I really don't care what you have. I care about the ideology you espoused.
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They were in love and enjoyed each others company

And that's the reason you exist today.




I really don't care what you have. I care about the ideology you espoused.

You think that heterosexuality and the continuation of the species is an "ideology"?

How long have you been smoking today winnie?
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You think that heterosexuality and the continuation of the species is an "ideology"?

How long have you been smoking today winnie?

We all know that homosexuals will be taking over the world soon. Pack your bags gary. Your out of here.
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Are you trying to reverse millenia of human wisdom by trying to convince us that homosexuality isn't a dysfunction after all?
What the hell are you talking about? That has got to be the most gereralized, ignorant piece of pap I've seen on here to date.

Learn about the ancient Greek and Roman civilizations, and tell me they thought homosexuality was a dysfunction. We didn't start caring about other people's sex lives until the self hating Christian religion became popular, and that's only because those who didn't adhere to it were either killed or went into hiding.
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these links relate to the nature of the relationship, as was mentioned. they do not and are not supposed to discuss the issue of evolution or biological underpinnings. but they do discuss the notion that the nature of the relationship is not different to the nature of heterosexual relationships. they discuss that what differences there are primarily relate to social and legal differences (such as the lack of the right to marry) and not to a flaw in the way gays relate to each other.

if homosexual relationships were "f**ked up" we would expect the dynamics of the relatinship to be abnormal, but we do not see that. we see normal healthy relationships, consistent with normal healthy people

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yes, social and political. psychologists advocacy that same sex relationships deserve legal and formal recognition matching heterosexual relationships. nothing here about them needing reparative therapy, which you would expect if they thought being gay was an abnormality. seems psychologists think being gay is as good as being straignt.

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non conformists are always picked on more. the literature often suggests that gays have higher rates of depression and anxiety, which is used as evidence that they are intrinsicaly sick. but bullied kids always have higher rates of depression and anxiety. this particular argument that the gay brain is flawed is misleading.

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these discuss the nature of attraction. straight men are attracted to images and scents of women. straight women attracted to images and scents of men. gay men attracted to images and scents of men, just like women are. also, straight men respond to arousal from women in a specific and appropriate way, gay men respond to arousal from men in the same specific and appropriate way. perhaps not surprising.

actually, this is highly suggestive. it suggests that the nature of the attraction that gays have is normal. the nature of their orientation and their responses are the same as straight people. once again, if they were f**ked up, we would expect their responses to be f**ked up. at a chemical and neurological level, gays are normal.

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So again, I HAVE not ignored some of your "evidence"
finally.

of course you have not seen it all. you have missed the stuff on evolution. you have also said there is nothing i posted about evolution.

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and just as I suspected, it's just a jumbling of crap from a generic search. If any REAL groundbreaking information was to be drawn from this, there would be more than an abstract and more front page news.
the removal of homosexuality as an illness, growing recognition of same sex relationships, spreading recognition of gay marriages, these are not front page news? these changes are driven by this research.

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So NOW if ANY of this information would be relevant, why don't you repost your "evidence" with a little synopsis of why I should check it out.

Not bad for an idiot huh?.
very good. do you realise this is the first time you have actually debated?
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