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Old 06-03-2008, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Homosexual marriage in CA qualifies for November ballot
It's not over yet.........


The initiative to amend the state Constitution qualifies for the November ballot.

By Jack Leonard, LA Times June 3, 2008

Setting the stage for a political showdown, the California secretary of state today said an initiative barring gay marriage had enough signatures to qualify for the Nov. 4 ballot.

The proposal would amend the state Constitution to define marriage as a union "between a man and a woman" and undo last month's historic California Supreme Court ruling, which found that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation was unconstitutional.

A coalition of religious and conservative activists submitted 1.1 million signatures for the ballot measure. Random sampling by Secretary of State Debra Bowen found that enough legitimate signatures had been collected.

Many opponents of same-sex marriage saw the high court's ruling as a rejection of past ballot measures against the practice, most recently Proposition 22, which defined marriage as between a man and a woman. It passed in 2000 with 61% of the vote.

"It will be tough," said Ron Prentice, chairman of the Protect Marriage campaign. "However, the vast body of research . . . confirmed that there is still a majority in California that will vote to protect historic marriage."

Prentice said his campaign had already begun drawing on the support and resources of local religious groups and other organizations for an election battle he expected to win.

He noted that a recent Los Angeles Times/KTLA poll found the proposed amendment was leading 54% to 35% among registered voters.

A Field Poll published last week found that 54% of registered voters opposed the measure, while 40% supported it.

If the ballot measure passes in November, its effect on same-sex marriages performed before the election is unclear. Prentice said he had reviewed competing legal opinions on the issue.

But he said he expected other groups that oppose same-sex marriages would consider challenging the marriages in court.

Voters will decide on gay marriage - Los Angeles Times
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ADF attorneys file suit against N.Y. Gov. Paterson

Lawmakers, taxpayers argue governor acted illegally in ordering state agencies to recognize same-sex “marriages” from other jurisdictions

Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 11:49 AM (MST)

NEW YORK — Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund filed suit Tuesday in New York state court on behalf of lawmakers and taxpayers to halt implementation of Gov. David Paterson’s directive ordering state agencies to recognize same-sex “marriages” from other jurisdictions.

“The governor should respect New York’s marriage laws over the laws of foreign jurisdictions. The governor has no authority to issue directives which conflict with New York’s public policy. His actions are an assault on the democratic process,” said ADF Senior Legal Counsel Brian Raum.

“The future of marriage should be decided by the legislature, not executives who take matters into their own hands,” Raum said.


ADF: ADF attorneys file suit against N.Y. Gov. Paterson - Alliance Defense Fund - Defending Our First Liberty
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You make a pretty good cheerleader, gary!
Old 06-03-2008, 03:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If the ballot measure passes in November, its effect on same-sex marriages performed before the election is unclear. Prentice said he had reviewed competing legal opinions on the issue.

But he said he expected other groups that oppose same-sex marriages would consider challenging the marriages in court.
What kind of evil bastards would try to dissolve marriages that were already legally performed???
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What kind of viscous bastards would try to dissolve marriages that were already legally performed???
The same hateful bigots who want to prevent bestialists from marrying their pets.
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ADF attorneys file suit against N.Y. Gov. Paterson

Lawmakers, taxpayers argue governor acted illegally in ordering state agencies to recognize same-sex “marriages” from other jurisdictions

Tuesday, June 03, 2008, 11:49 AM (MST)

NEW YORK — Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund filed suit Tuesday in New York state court on behalf of lawmakers and taxpayers to halt implementation of Gov. David Paterson’s directive ordering state agencies to recognize same-sex “marriages” from other jurisdictions.

“The governor should respect New York’s marriage laws over the laws of foreign jurisdictions. The governor has no authority to issue directives which conflict with New York’s public policy. His actions are an assault on the democratic process,” said ADF Senior Legal Counsel Brian Raum.

“The future of marriage should be decided by the legislature, not executives who take matters into their own hands,” Raum said.

ADF: ADF attorneys file suit against N.Y. Gov. Paterson - Alliance Defense Fund - Defending Our First Liberty
This is an interesting legal issue. I read the complaint. I predict that the Court will declare the Executive Order to be a violation of the separation of powers concept. The Court will otherwise dodge the same sex marriage issue.
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The same hateful bigots who want to prevent bestialists from marrying their pets.
We'll have that conversation when people can legally marry their pets, deal?
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We'll have that conversation when people can legally marry their pets, deal?
Rumor has it, He has been trying to marry his pet turtle for over 6 years now.
"I did not choose to be gay, I was chosen"....

Hey idiot, "Next time you have a thought...just let it go." -Ron White

Lather, rinse and repeat.
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Rumor has it, He has been trying to marry his pet turtle for over 6 years now.

That's only if he can coax it out of it's shell long enough to propose to it in the first place.
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That's only if he can coax it out of it's shell long enough to propose to it in the first place.
I don't know if I am embarassed for the turtle or for him. There's something a LITTLE not right about it.
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