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California Supreme Court refuses to delay gay marriages

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Old 06-05-2008, 09:53 AM   #31 (permalink)
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To deny racism exists is just as goofy as some gay people here who act like my point of view is rare or extreme.
I never read that anybody thought your ignorant bigotries and antiquated prejudices were unique to you personally.
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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
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Old 06-07-2008, 03:17 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The California Supreme Court could have handled this issue in a more procedurally manageable way. The new anti-gay marriage initiative, if passed, is going to create some legal issues for those who get married.

Legal issue affects timings of gay weddings - Yahoo! News

They should have stayed the order until November. If the amendment passes, they will have created a mess. If the amendment fails, as I think it will, then the issue is resolved in California.

Of course, they could make a second run at the amendment, but second runs have an even smaller chance unless something bizarre happens, e.g. some gay marriage riot.
Old 06-07-2008, 03:38 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I never read that anybody thought your ignorant bigotries and antiquated prejudices were unique to you personally.
And I've never read anything that indicated that my "bigotries" are wrong. why should I change my point of view if everything about them is correct? And it's not prejudice to say homosexuality is aberrant. It just is.

If anything, those that disagree with me are being just as bigoted as I am If not even more so.
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Your advocation of discrimination is bigotry.

Disagreeing with you is not bigotry.

Bigotry is not an epithet or a value judgement. It's a defined word with definition parameters. Disagreeing with you is not within the boundary.
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Old 06-07-2008, 04:02 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Your advocation of discrimination is bigotry.
Same sex unions are not a marriage. That's just fact, not discrimination. Just as a man is not qualified to be a "mother" even though he is a human being just as a female is. No man should ever be called a "mother" and I can't think of a situation where a man is defined as a "mother".

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Disagreeing with you is not bigotry.
But in disagreeing, calling me a bigot for expressing my opinion is just as bigoted.

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Bigotry is not an epithet or a value judgement. It's a defined word with definition parameters. Disagreeing with you is not within the boundary.
And what are those parameters that include me but excludes those here that exclude me? With a link please.
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Old 06-07-2008, 04:17 PM   #36 (permalink)
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link this
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LOL. Typical.
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Ok, I'll bite.

Here's a good definition.

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THE NATURE OF RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY

Seems to me that the anti-gay marriage crowd are trying to rob others of their rights as human beings. Of course, this is from a site espousing tolerance...
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This decision clearly shows the bias of these four activist judges, who not only flout the will of Californian voters,
How about the voters get used to the fact that their marriages will not become any less meaningful if gays are allowed to marry? Maybe we should let them realise the sky will not fall and the world will not end if we allow gay people to marry.
After all, these homophobes are only against gay marriage because their religion is against it.
Take religion away and they don't have a leg to stand on.
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The net result will be a further dilution and devaluation of the institution of marriage, fewer people bothering to marry, a further breakdown in the family and a greater erosion of the fabric of society.


And this is a bad thing because..? Society needs a kick in the ass now and then, it cannot remain stagnant. And please inform me why our version of society is the correct version. Because I don't feel that way at all, as a matter of fact, I think that our society is a twisted unbalanced version of the interrelation of humanity, and is destined to suffer the same fate of those previous societies who couldn't maintain it's power through oppression any longer.
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