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Old 06-07-2008, 01:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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A union will support a teacher that berates a unruly child. I'm sure that if there is a union, it'll support her for not wanting to give out same sex marriage licenses. It's not like there was an expectation that same sex unions would marry when she took the job. It's still pretty alien among states and countries to allow that.
Maybe she could claim homophobia, and make it a disability claim. LOL.

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Old 06-07-2008, 02:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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No union is going to support an employee hired to do a specific job who then decides the job is not for her.

County clerks have a specific job description - if she is unable to perform her job - for whatever reason - get rid of her.

There are lots of people out there (highest unemployment rate in decades right now) who would be happy to perform the job.
Would you have the same position if it were a clerk who was performing gay marriages in a state where gay marriages are not permitted? I doubt it. You either have to be for firing everyone (which is my position) or no one.

By the way, we do not have the "highest unemployment rate in decades". It has been higher a number of times, including in the last ten years.

Image:Us unemployment rates 1950 2005.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know that the mainstream media wants the economy to be as shitty as possible (and thanks to months of their tripe, their wish is probably about to become true). However, unemployment, on a historical basis, is not that bad right now.
Old 06-07-2008, 03:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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WRAPUP 4-US jobless rate leaps to 3-1/2 year high in May

Fri Jun 6, 2008 4:50pm EDT




By Glenn Somerville
WASHINGTON, June 6 (Reuters) - The U.S. unemployment rate surged to 5.5 percent in May, its highest in more than 3-1/2 years, as the barely growing economy lost jobs for the fifth straight month.
The jump in the monthly jobless rate was the biggest in 22 years. Together with a whopping surge in oil prices and a flare-up in Mideast tensions, it renewed fears the U.S. economy was at growing risk of sliding into recession.
Stock prices took their biggest tumble since February 2007 as investors grew panicky at the possibility of further oil-price spikes and potential violence after an Israeli official said an attack on Iranian nuclear sites looked "unavoidable."
Economist Robert MacIntosh of Eaton Vance Management in Boston described the May US. jobless rate as a "shocker" but not enough to conclude growth was completely stalling.
"The actual payrolls number itself was consistent with what we have been seeing in terms of a slowdown but not quite a recession. But the employment rate gives you a much weaker economic outlook than the payrolls number," said MacIntosh.
The Labor Department on Friday said 49,000 jobs were shed by employers last month, on top of 28,000 in April -- for a total of 324,000 lost since the beginning of the year. May's unemployment rate was up from 5 percent in April and was the highest since October 2004.
At a swearing-in event for a new Housing and Urban Development secretary, President George W. Bush briefly referred to the disappointing jobs report but conceded only that it signaled slower growth.

You're absolutely correct.
I read the above article this morning, and the "jump" statistic, and my brain translated to "unemployment rate."
My bad.
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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
Old 06-07-2008, 03:52 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Wait til gas hits $5 or $6 a gallon. That's gonna kick a LOT more industries in the arse. We are in for some hard times. All of us. Cept the oil companies that is. $90 tanks of gas is insane. After taxes and other deductions, a tank of gas would be almost a days wage for someone earning $15 an hour. And a LOT of people make much less than that.
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WRAPUP 4-US jobless rate leaps to 3-1/2 year high in May

Fri Jun 6, 2008 4:50pm EDT




By Glenn Somerville
WASHINGTON, June 6 (Reuters) - The U.S. unemployment rate surged to 5.5 percent in May, its highest in more than 3-1/2 years, as the barely growing economy lost jobs for the fifth straight month.
The jump in the monthly jobless rate was the biggest in 22 years. Together with a whopping surge in oil prices and a flare-up in Mideast tensions, it renewed fears the U.S. economy was at growing risk of sliding into recession.
Stock prices took their biggest tumble since February 2007 as investors grew panicky at the possibility of further oil-price spikes and potential violence after an Israeli official said an attack on Iranian nuclear sites looked "unavoidable."
Economist Robert MacIntosh of Eaton Vance Management in Boston described the May US. jobless rate as a "shocker" but not enough to conclude growth was completely stalling.
"The actual payrolls number itself was consistent with what we have been seeing in terms of a slowdown but not quite a recession. But the employment rate gives you a much weaker economic outlook than the payrolls number," said MacIntosh.
The Labor Department on Friday said 49,000 jobs were shed by employers last month, on top of 28,000 in April -- for a total of 324,000 lost since the beginning of the year. May's unemployment rate was up from 5 percent in April and was the highest since October 2004.
At a swearing-in event for a new Housing and Urban Development secretary, President George W. Bush briefly referred to the disappointing jobs report but conceded only that it signaled slower growth.

You're absolutely correct.
I read the above article this morning, and the "jump" statistic, and my brain translated to "unemployment rate."
My bad.
Its going to get worse if gasoline prices don't settle down. I get bemused by people who wish that we had gasoline prices as high as Europe's. They believe that somehow that will immediately result in electric cars or some other gasoline free transportation. It won't. There's no good solution over the horizon.

Why would anyone wish for higher gas prices? Its the arrogance of the Hollywood liberals with money. It won't bother people them, as they can afford higher gas prices. All higher gas prices do is cripple blue-collar workers and the working poor - especially those who don't have alternative transportation to work.

We're going to see unemployment and other economic problems if we don't get a handle on gas prices.
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Wait til gas hits $5 or $6 a gallon. That's gonna kick a LOT more industries in the arse. We are in for some hard times. All of us. Cept the oil companies that is. $90 tanks of gas is insane. After taxes and other deductions, a tank of gas would be almost a days wage for someone earning $15 an hour. And a LOT of people make much less than that.
Environmentalists and others who want higher gas prices on the ludicrous premise that it will force people into not driving (and most of the working poor couldn't buy an electric or hybrid car today anyway due to lack of money).
Old 06-07-2008, 04:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It's a stupid notion anyway.

We spend quite a bit of time in France - and travel often to other E.U. countries.

They all drive there as well...do they think the traffic problems in Paris are because there are too many BICYCLES on the roads?!

The difference, is that everything is CLOSE. Here, in the U.S., people often drive an hour commute to work ... they won't be able to work there any more if they can't drive.
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Old 06-07-2008, 06:30 PM   #18 (permalink)
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That's one of the reasons we moved last year. The writing was on the wall for these gas prices and where we were living was at least a 30 minute car ride to ANYTHING. I knew that wasn't gonna work much longer.
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It's a stupid notion anyway.

We spend quite a bit of time in France - and travel often to other E.U. countries.

They all drive there as well...do they think the traffic problems in Paris are because there are too many BICYCLES on the roads?!

The difference, is that everything is CLOSE. Here, in the U.S., people often drive an hour commute to work ... they won't be able to work there any more if they can't drive.
I haven't had to commute for over three years now. My job before this I worked from my home most of the time. Now, I live where I work.
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This reminds me of the guy that my brother worked with at a gas station that would not sell blunts to people, telling them that he knew what they were using them for. And yeah, his ass got canned, and so should this bitch.

Ethics in the work place is one thing, but refusing to do your job and coming up with some lame excuse is another. Maybe she should flip burgers or something. Then she will realize how good she had it, but it would of course be too damn late. Too bad, so sad.
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