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Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Old 06-13-2008, 11:57 AM   #31 (permalink)
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True, but women's bodies do turn me on. I guess I'm not gay,
Gotta call "ditto" on that one.
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Old 06-13-2008, 02:05 PM   #32 (permalink)
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there were studies done which resulted in this statement:
Are those the same APA studies you quoted before?

The 'studies' where they mailed out questionnaires to lesbian couples, and used ridiculously small samples sizes, sometimes as few as 17????

I read them once, they were quite comical. Tragic but comical.

Here is an example:


Empirical Studies on Lesbian and Gay Parenting

Ainslie, J., & Feltey, K.M. (1991). Definitions and dynamics of motherhood and family in lesbian communities. Marriage and Family Review, 17, (1/2), 63-85.

Reports results of a study of the meaning of motherhood and family to lesbian mothers, how these meanings are created and maintained both in the lesbian community and outside world, and the centrality of lesbian feminist communities to the lives of lesbian women and their children. Uses an explicitly feminist framework and interactive social psychological perspective. Includes intensive interviews with 17 lesbian mothers who were involved in lesbian feminist communities.

How else would we expect lesbians to respond to questions about their parenting??

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They came from two people that had sexual intercourse. The word "union" is really a stretch in alot of cases.
Personal experience colouring your jaundiced outlook again?
Old 06-13-2008, 02:37 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Personal experience colouring your jaundiced outlook again?
Nope, just sham heterosexual relationships.
Old 06-13-2008, 03:21 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Personal experience colouring your jaundiced outlook again?
I was looking for a study that would examine the lives of adults who were raised by gay couples. Are the children married, employed, in college, etc. Do they have criminal records? Did they graduate from h.s.? These are all non-subjective criteria.

And I want to see the date compared with that of heterosexual couples adopting children.
Old 06-13-2008, 03:40 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Are those the same APA studies you quoted before?

The 'studies' where they mailed out questionnaires to lesbian couples, and used ridiculously small samples sizes, sometimes as few as 17????

I read them once, they were quite comical. Tragic but comical.

Here is an example:


Empirical Studies on Lesbian and Gay Parenting

Ainslie, J., & Feltey, K.M. (1991). Definitions and dynamics of motherhood and family in lesbian communities. Marriage and Family Review, 17, (1/2), 63-85.

Reports results of a study of the meaning of motherhood and family to lesbian mothers, how these meanings are created and maintained both in the lesbian community and outside world, and the centrality of lesbian feminist communities to the lives of lesbian women and their children. Uses an explicitly feminist framework and interactive social psychological perspective. Includes intensive interviews with 17 lesbian mothers who were involved in lesbian feminist communities.

How else would we expect lesbians to respond to questions about their parenting??


I have no idea if the statements you posted were part of the APA studies, since you chose to not include a link for verification
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I was looking for a study that would examine the lives of adults who were raised by gay couples. Are the children married, employed, in college, etc. Do they have criminal records? Did they graduate from h.s.? These are all non-subjective criteria.

And I want to see the date compared with that of heterosexual couples adopting children.

Twenty-three empirical studies published between 1978 and 2000 on nonclinical children raised by lesbian mothers or gay fathers were reviewed (one Belgian/Dutch, one Danish, three British, and 18 North American). Twenty reported on offspring of lesbian mothers, and three on offspring of gay fathers. The studies encompassed a total of 615 offspring (age range 1.5-44 years) of lesbian mothers or gay fathers and 387 controls, who were assessed by psychological tests, questionnaires or interviews. Seven types of outcomes were found to be typical: emotional functioning, sexual preference, stigmatization, gender role behavior, behavioral adjustment, gender identity, and cognitive functioning. Children raised by lesbian mothers or gay fathers did not systematically differ from other children on any of the outcomes. The studies indicate that children raised by lesbian women do not experience adverse outcomes compared with other children. The same holds for children raised by gay men, but more studies should be done.

Outcomes for children with lesbian or gay parents....[Scand J Psychol. 2002] - PubMed Result
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