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Old 06-23-2008, 09:57 PM   #41 (permalink)
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He sounds about as confused as people like gary and fx on this issue.
I'm not confused. Although anyone who thinks everyone is "bisexual", the epitome of confused, has serious issues making that accusation toward anyone.

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Bigots are humans too. The anti-black bigots are non-black people that think people who are black are inferior because of that fact. The anti-gay bigots are non-gays who think that being gay is inferior (sometimes they use the words "unnatural" or "aberrant", but it means the same thing to them) simply because of that fact. NO DIFFERENCE.
I'm still waiting fore you to tell my how I'm a bigot. I've never said gays were inferior. If I see a blind man, making the determination that being blind is unnatural for humans isn't saying he's inferior, just that he has a problem. Nothing bigoted about that.

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Old 06-23-2008, 10:10 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Not that it is relevant here but that is not true. Perhaps you might want to research the biological/scientific meaning of "negroid."
Why don't you enlighten us on how "negroid" is genetically different than the other races of humans and how and why that matters to a homogenized civilization that we live in now. There doesn't seem to be any impediments to any two races on the planet coming together and having offspring. So any "racial" differences seem to be societal and have nothing to do with genetics or nature.

So what am I supposed to glean from the biological/scientific meaning of "negroid"?
Old 06-23-2008, 10:26 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'm not confused. Although anyone who thinks everyone is "bisexual", the epitome of confused, has serious issues making that accusation toward anyone.


I'm still waiting fore you to tell my how I'm a bigot. I've never said gays were inferior. If I see a blind man, making the determination that being blind is unnatural for humans isn't saying he's inferior, just that he has a problem. Nothing bigoted about that.
I am gay, and it is perfectly natural to me.....not only that, it can be found in at least 500 species of animal. I am sick of hearing from people that it is NOT natural. When your boy part gets all excited for another boy part, then I hate to tell you, but that's not a decision-- it is NATURE calling hellllloooooo.

As far as it being a problem, it is not a problem for me or my family or my friends or my coworkers...but for some Americans, it is a huge problem who I share my bed with. Go figure that one out.

The issue is about gay marriage now....and I keep asking this very same question, how can the state legally say that an individual in a lawful and consenting relationship deserves certain rights, benefits and protections under the law freely given with marriage, but that another individual in a lawful and consenting relationship is denied those rights by virtue of his gender?....that's right, it IS a gender argument, because if I were a woman instead of man...no issue.

The only answer to that has ever been because homosexuality is immoral...and then this automatically becomes unconstitutional, because many, many, many people are in relationships that can be perceived as immoral.....and yet they get married anyway.
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:48 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I am gay, and it is perfectly natural to me.....not only that, it can be found in at least 500 species of animal. I am sick of hearing from people that it is NOT natural. When your boy part gets all excited for another boy part, then I hate to tell you, but that's not a decision-- it is NATURE calling hellllloooooo.
There are a lot of defects that humans share with other species. Not surprising that there are homosexual [insert species here]. Some people's "sexual organs" gets excited for other species, children, inanimate objects. That's a low threshold for supporting "gay" as something humans are supposed to be.

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As far as it being a problem, it is not a problem for me or my family or my friends or my coworkers...but for some Americans, it is a huge problem who I share my bed with. Go figure that one out.
It's not just Americans. It most of the planet. Almost half of the planet has sodomy laws and only about 10% allow any recognition of homosexual unions. "Your" friends may not have a problem with "you", but any member of the FLDS could say the same for their religion too since they deal in a closed society.

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The issue is about gay marriage now....and I keep asking this very same question, how can the state legally say that an individual in a lawful and consenting relationship deserves certain rights, benefits and protections under the law freely given with marriage, but that another individual in a lawful and consenting relationship is denied those rights by virtue of his gender?....that's right, it IS a gender argument, because if I were a woman instead of man...no issue.
It's not a gender argument. It's a union argument. And there is no reason for a homosexual union to be called a marriage. It is NOT a marriage. Just like incest, pedophila, and zoophilia, the union is the result of a hormonal mistake somewhere. Your "lawful and consenting" validates the slippery slope that the repeal of the sodomy laws continued. Calling a homosexual union a marriage is an affront to human intelligence.

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The only answer to that has ever been because homosexuality is immoral...and then this automatically becomes unconstitutional, because many, many, many people are in relationships that can be perceived as immoral.....and yet they get married anyway.
I've never said it was immoral. I don't care what you do, just don't call it a marriage. Because it's not. And it's not unconstitutional since "gay" isn't recognized as a separate type of person. If you are "equal" the established rules would work without modification. And changing "man and wife" to "any two yahoos" is a significant change considering the importance of man and woman to life on this planet. Especially when you consider the null and void nature of homosexuality.
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And changing "man and wife" to "any two yahoos" is a significant change considering the importance of man and woman to life on this planet.
...but not to marriage

marriage is a legal conveyance by which people form a legal family with certain necessary LEGAL protections provided by the government

marriage has NOTHING to do with "life on the planet"

really - does it take a brain trust to figure that out? I think we had quite a number of years of "life on the planet" far before the United States government decided to confer special rights on some people based on their sexual behaviour.
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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
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He sounds about as confused as people like gary and fx on this issue.
You're the one who thinks everybody is bisexual. That indicates confusion on your part as far as I'm concerned.
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You're the one who thinks everybody is bisexual. That indicates confusion on your part as far as I'm concerned.
I'm amended my theory, in case you missed it. But you go on thinking that I think whatever you want to think that I'm thinking.
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Why don't you enlighten us on how "negroid" is genetically different than the other races of humans and how and why that matters to a homogenized civilization that we live in now. There doesn't seem to be any impediments to any two races on the planet coming together and having offspring. So any "racial" differences seem to be societal and have nothing to do with genetics or nature.

So what am I supposed to glean from the biological/scientific meaning of "negroid"?
Everybody knows that all black men have large penises and excel at basketball. This is not always true for white men. There's your proof.
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actually, studies have shown that gay men have larger penises than straight men - no kidding

Salon Health & Body | Research says erect gay penises are bigger
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I'm amended my theory, in case you missed it. But you go on thinking that I think whatever you want to think that I'm thinking.
I could have missed it. There are alot of posts here to read.
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