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Old 06-24-2008, 08:56 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 06-24-2008, 09:17 AM   #52 (permalink)
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There are a lot of defects that humans share with other species. Not surprising that there are homosexual [insert species here]. Some people's "sexual organs" gets excited for other species, children, inanimate objects. That's a low threshold for supporting "gay" as something humans are supposed to be.

Some of us, who are not morons, can distinguish between consenting adults in lawful relationships, and the rape of children and animals......but I guess not all of us are astute enough to make those observations on our own (rolls eyes)

It's not just Americans. It most of the planet. Almost half of the planet has sodomy laws and only about 10% allow any recognition of homosexual unions. "Your" friends may not have a problem with "you", but any member of the FLDS could say the same for their religion too since they deal in a closed society.

Homosexuality is legal almost everywhere on the planet save human rights cesspools of the third world variety...


It's not a gender argument. It's a union argument. And there is no reason for a homosexual union to be called a marriage. It is NOT a marriage. Just like incest, pedophila, and zoophilia, the union is the result of a hormonal mistake somewhere. Your "lawful and consenting" validates the slippery slope that the repeal of the sodomy laws continued. Calling a homosexual union a marriage is an affront to human intelligence.

Nope, it is affront to YOUR limited intelligence.

I've never said it was immoral. I don't care what you do, just don't call it a marriage. Because it's not. And it's not unconstitutional since "gay" isn't recognized as a separate type of person. If you are "equal" the established rules would work without modification. And changing "man and wife" to "any two yahoos" is a significant change considering the importance of man and woman to life on this planet. Especially when you consider the null and void nature of homosexuality.
Until and unless you bigots can illustrate how the expansion of marriage to include same sex couples significantly changes anything with concrete examples... you have no argument; and I am sorry if you don't like the fact that sodomy laws have been overturned, but if you think it is OK for the government to legislate inside the bedroom, then you have a bigger problem than gays marrying. Whether it happened yesterday or 50 years ago, homosexuality is legal when consenting in all 50 states, so you really have no legal argument to ban gay marriage...YOU not liking us, is not enough.

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Old 06-24-2008, 09:52 AM   #53 (permalink)
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...but not to marriage

marriage is a legal conveyance by which people form a legal family with certain necessary LEGAL protections provided by the government

marriage has NOTHING to do with "life on the planet"

really - does it take a brain trust to figure that out? I think we had quite a number of years of "life on the planet" far before the United States government decided to confer special rights on some people based on their sexual behaviour.
If we left it to you, "marriage" wouldn't stand for anything you disagree with. I'll remember not to refer to you as a authority on anything but quilts.
Old 06-24-2008, 10:04 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Some of us, who are not morons, can distinguish between consenting adults in lawful relationships, and the rape of children and animals......but I guess not all of us are astute enough to make those observations on our own (rolls eyes)
And some of us who aren't morons or gay can see the dysfunction of any human who thinks that they are instinctually attracted to children other species or same gender. That's a much more valid observation to most of the human species. It's aberrant to want to have sex with your own gender before sex is even attempted. I don't care if two same gendered beings want to have sex with each other, just don't let any one else know about it. That's an "abomination".

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Homosexuality is legal almost everywhere on the planet save human rights cesspools of the third world variety...
About a third of the world's countries currently, down from nearly all of them.

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Nope, it is affront to YOUR limited intelligence.
Well I guess I'm about average for the world since until last decade, there was no such thing as "gay marriage". And even in the countries that allow it, it was foisted on them, not something the populace voted on.

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Until and unless you bigots can illustrate how the expansion of marriage to include same sex couples significantly changes anything with concrete examples... you have no argument; and I am sorry if you don't like the fact that sodomy laws have been overturned, but if you think it is OK for the government to legislate inside the bedroom, then you have a bigger problem than gays marrying. Whether it happened yesterday or 50 years ago, homosexuality is legal when consenting in all 50 states, so you really have no legal argument to ban gay marriage...YOU not liking us, is not enough.
I merely advocate that a same sex union is not a "marriage". I couldn't care less about homosexuality otherwise. If that makes me a "bigot", so be it.
Old 06-24-2008, 10:27 AM   #55 (permalink)
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If we left it to you, "marriage" wouldn't stand for anything you disagree with.

If marriage never stood for ignorant bigotry and outdated prejudices, that's fine with me.

I'll remember not to refer to you as a authority on anything but quilts.
Nice dodging, managing to ignore everything in the post to which you responded.
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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:31 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Nice dodging, managing to ignore everything in the post to which you responded.
Naa, I got the point I was trying to make across. I'm happy with my answer.
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I have no doubt you're "happy" with your dodge, hoping that nobody realizes that your insults were trying to cover the fact that you couldn't address that which showed the ignorance of your posts.
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Old 06-24-2008, 10:36 AM   #58 (permalink)
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I have no doubt you're "happy" with your dodge, hoping that nobody realizes that your insults were trying to cover the fact that you couldn't address that which showed the ignorance of your posts.
No, I'm happy you know that I was talking about to "you". Considering the mental acuity you've expressed on this forum, being called ignorant by you is hardly insulting. It's like a mentally retarded person calling someone "stupid".
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marriage is a legal conveyance by which people form a legal family with certain necessary LEGAL protections provided by the government

marriage has NOTHING to do with "life on the planet"

really - does it take a brain trust to figure that out? I think we had quite a number of years of "life on the planet" far before the United States government decided to confer special rights on some people based on their sexual behaviour.
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And some of us who aren't morons or gay can see the dysfunction of any human who thinks that they are instinctually attracted to children other species or same gender. That's a much more valid observation to most of the human species. It's aberrant to want to have sex with your own gender before sex is even attempted. I don't care if two same gendered beings want to have sex with each other, just don't let any one else know about it. That's an "abomination".

Most humans can tell the difference between the rape of children and animals and consenting adults....but again, you seem to have that difficulty. No wonder gay marriage is so confusing for you.

About a third of the world's countries currently, down from nearly all of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_laws_of_the_world

Check out the map on this wikipedia page, look where homosexuality is illegal. Mostly African countries where they mutilate women's genitalia.



Well I guess I'm about average for the world since until last decade, there was no such thing as "gay marriage". And even in the countries that allow it, it was foisted on them, not something the populace voted on.

....and miracle of miracles, those republics did not fall...


I merely advocate that a same sex union is not a "marriage". I couldn't care less about homosexuality otherwise. If that makes me a "bigot", so be it.
...and I merely advocate that it is none of your business how adults in lawful and consenting relationships legally define their unions; unless of course you can't seem to make your own marriage work, which is probably why this is such a huge problem for you.
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