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07-04-2008, 06:24 PM
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| Partisan   Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Gender:  Posts: 10,671 Country: 
 |  Mormon church enters Calif. gay marriage fight The troops begin to mass for marital Armageddon in CA: SALT LAKE CITY - The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is asking California members to join the effort to amend that state's constitution to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. A letter sent to Mormon bishops and signed by church president Thomas S. Monson and his two top counselors calls on Mormons to donate "means and time" to the ballot measure. The LDS church will work with a coalition of churches and other conservative groups that put the California Marriage Protection Act on the Nov. 4 ballot to assure its passage, the letter states. In May, California's Supreme Court overturned a voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, saying gays could not be denied marriage licenses. "The church's teachings and position on this moral issue are unequivocal. Marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and the formation of families is central to the Creator's plan for His children," the four-paragraph letter states. "We ask that you do all you can to support the proposed constitutional amendment by donating of your means and time to ensure that marriage in California is legally defined as being between a man and a woman," church leaders say in the letter. "Our best efforts are required to preserve the sacred institution of marriage." California Mormons — there are more than 750,000, according to a church almanac — have heard and heeded similar calls from their leaders before. In 2000, a letter from the pulpit asked members to give time and money in support of Proposition 22, a ballot measure prohibiting California from legally recognizing gay marriages performed outside the state. It passed but was later struck down by the courts. The LDS church also fought same-sex marriage legislation in other states during the 1990s. As recently as 2006, it signed a letter to Congress seeking an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Mormon church enters Calif. gay marriage fight - Yahoo! News ![[IMG][/IMG]](http://www.defendingthetruth.com/avatars/garysher.gif?type=sigpic&dateline=1221844744) Doggone it darn right you betcha bless your heart maverick | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-04-2008, 06:31 PM
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| Council Member   Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago 'burbs Gender:  Posts: 1,406 Country: 
 | Apparently, like gary, the Mormons cannot distinguish between civil marriage and church-backed marriage. Our patient efforts to educate these well-intentioned but sadly confused people must continue. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-04-2008, 06:39 PM
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| Head of Security   Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty Gender: Posts: 10,352 Country: 
 | I don't understand what religious people have against gay marriage. Lots of people have religious marriages but are not "legally" married. And vice-versa... The law has nothing to do with what your religion must accept or recognize. Luckily for us all, this country is not run by or founded on any religious tradition. Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey  | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-04-2008, 06:40 PM
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| Partisan  Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Haven, CT Gender: Posts: 7,978 Country:
| Unluckily for us, there are many who don't know it - and continue to treat American law as their own private church service. Why are they allowed to get involved in politics like this and keep their tax exempt status? *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-04-2008, 06:57 PM
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| Head of Security Join Date: May 2005 Location: The Cradle of Liberty Gender: Posts: 10,352 Country:
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Thats what I want to know. It is about time these churches start pulling their weight. Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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07-04-2008, 08:03 PM
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| SIMPLETON  Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: Posts: 8,907 Country:
| Not all people who find same sex marriage f'd up is religious. Some people just look at the union of to same gendered people to be an affront to basic intelligence and would find a societal standard like marriage being redefined to include "same sex" just a stupid proposition.  | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-04-2008, 09:13 PM
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| Partisan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Haven, CT Gender: Posts: 7,978 Country:
| I find your statement in a thread about religious institutions - dismissing the interference of religious institutions in civil affairs - to be f'ed up. If you're not interested in discussing religious institutions involved in the political process in the U.S., why are you trying to derail this thread with yet another of your rants and ravings? *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Conservatism: Self-centered mean-spiritedness fueled by ignorance and misguided self-importance. Bigotry is a social disease. Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage." | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-04-2008, 09:33 PM
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| Block Captain  Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Australia Gender: Posts: 365 Country: 
| Can the church please get their butts out of marriage? Can the church please focus on more important issues? Can the church please realise that if I want to marry another woman, it is none of their business? Can the church tell me why it feels the need to butt into other peoples lives? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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07-04-2008, 09:57 PM
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| Partisan Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Gender: Posts: 10,671 Country:
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I always smile when I hear homosexuals accuse others of being 'sadly confused'! Doggone it darn right you betcha bless your heart maverick | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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07-04-2008, 10:01 PM
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| Partisan Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Gender: Posts: 10,671 Country:
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That's not entirely true. The United States IS founded on Judeo-Christian religious traditions even though the Constitution perpetuates freedom of religion and forbids state run religions. All of the rights enumerated in the Constitution are claimed to have been bestowed by a higher power. A lot of people seem to get confused by this important distinction when they talk about a separation of church and state. Doggone it darn right you betcha bless your heart maverick | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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