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Old 07-23-2008, 03:11 PM   #121 (permalink)
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You can't discriminate against people, and then whine about when those very same people fight back.

...well you can do that, but you just look stupid.

...oh right (never mind)

By creating categories of people who get special protections when they are victims of the same crime, or miscarriage of justice, you are implicitly subordinating everyone who doesn't belong to one of those categories.

Read that sentence a few times until you grasp its meaning.
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:31 PM   #122 (permalink)
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If they have been not been targeted specifically because they are a member of a discriminated against and/or marginalized minority, it IS NOT the "same crime."

Read that sentence a few times until you grasp its meaning.
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Legalized same-sex marriage almost certainly benefits those same-sex couples who choose to marry, as well as the children being raised in those homes. - David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of "The Future of Marriage."
Old 07-23-2008, 03:36 PM   #123 (permalink)
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If they have been not been targeted specifically because they are a member of a discriminated against and/or marginalized minority, it IS NOT the "same crime."
Why not?

Why is it worse to attack a homosexual person because they're homosexual than to attack an old lady because she has money?

The only possible conclusion is that you consider old ladies are subordinate to homosexuals.


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Old 07-23-2008, 03:44 PM   #124 (permalink)
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Stupid analogy.

There is no difference between attacking a homosexual because he has money and attacking an old lady because she has money.

Attacking a homosexual because the attacker is bigoted against a marginalized minority is worse than attacking somebody because they have money, yes.
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:45 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Attacking a homosexual because he is a marginalized minority is worse than attacking somebody because they have money, yes.
Why? Give reasons for your answer.
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:52 PM   #126 (permalink)
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No thanks - not interested in playing stupid semantics games with you.

My post is quite clear and doesn't need clarifying.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:12 PM   #127 (permalink)
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No thanks - not interested in playing stupid semantics games with you.

My post is quite clear and doesn't need clarifying.
Yes it does
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America is one of the most liberal countries on the planet, are you high?
What is the significance of a wardrobe malfunction? In Germany a bra commercial begins with a topless woman and ends with a comfortable bra supporting those gorgeous pups.

America isn't liberal, Hollywood is liberal, you and some of the members on this board are liberal... why is everyone so hung up to enter the discussion on sex I posted? Oh, America is very conservative, very, very conservative!
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:58 PM   #129 (permalink)
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why is everyone so hung up to enter the discussion on sex I posted? Oh, America is very conservative, very, very conservative!
To be honest? Because I'm not interested in sharing my personal sexual history and preferences with you. The idea makes me kind of queasy, actually. Not because it's sex, but because it's you.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:05 PM   #130 (permalink)
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By creating categories of people who get special protections when they are victims of the same crime, or miscarriage of justice, you are implicitly subordinating everyone who doesn't belong to one of those categories.

Read that sentence a few times until you grasp its meaning.
Again, I am asking for you to enumerate these laws with links to their actual texts so we can see that gays have MORE rights above and beyond all others citizens.

Are you prepared to do that?

I didn't think so.

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