Where are you on the "Gay Scale?"

Bookworm · 10-20-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tristanrobin

There will always be those who look at the Bible as a good book and a guidebook, and there will always be those who consider it a set of literal spiritual legislations. I'm in the former. I've never seen any real point to arguing faith. Isn't that the point of faith? - that it can't be proven one way or the other? That's what faith is.

Very well put. And I don't visit the forum enough to get into a detailed discussion of faith anyway. Besides, that's off-topic to this thread. I do think mytmouse's scale is a pretty well thought out way of describing things.

fxashun · 10-21-2008, 09:19 AM

The Bibles characterization of same sex relations is no less clear that those against those with other species. And "Jesus" didn't say much about those either. From a Biblical standpoint, you could say there are fewer references to not boinking the livestock than your own gender. By the logic presented here on several occasions, the lack of admonishment for cross species intimacy must mean the Bible is OK with it.
Bullshit.

Tigerwiccan · 10-21-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by fxashun

The Bibles characterization of same sex relations is no less clear that those against those with other species. And "Jesus" didn't say much about those either. From a Biblical standpoint, you could say there are fewer references to not boinking the livestock than your own gender. By the logic presented here on several occasions, the lack of admonishment for cross species intimacy must mean the Bible is OK with it.
Bullshit.

You're right, the whole Bible is bullshit.

fxashun · 10-21-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan

You're right, the whole Bible is bullshit.

I'd be inclined to argue on your side of that. I just wouldn't characterie it with that term. I'd like to give it and those that follow it more benefit of the doubt than that.

tristanrobin · 10-21-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by fxashun

The Bibles characterization of same sex relations is no less clear that those against those with other species. And "Jesus" didn't say much about those either. From a Biblical standpoint, you could say there are fewer references to not boinking the livestock than your own gender. By the logic presented here on several occasions, the lack of admonishment for cross species intimacy must mean the Bible is OK with it.
Bullshit.

sounds to me as if the Bible shouldn't be used as a reason to criminalize boinking livestock then. There are quite a few others I can think of - but the Bible, obviously, isn't one of them.

so?

fxashun · 10-21-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tristanrobin

sounds to me as if the Bible shouldn't be used as a reason to criminalize boinking livestock then. There are quite a few others I can think of - but the Bible, obviously, isn't one of them.
so?

I agree. That's why I don't use the Bible as my basis. I was just pointing out that many here say that since the Bible doesn't say anything "specifically" about gay marriage, then it must be okay with it. Just pointing out how utterly ignorant that statement is.

But claiming to be a "gay Christian" is like a nude eskimo.

Tigerwiccan · 10-21-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fxashun

I agree. That's why I don't use the Bible as my basis. I was just pointing out that many here say that since the Bible doesn't say anything "specifically" about gay marriage, then it must be okay with it. Just pointing out how utterly ignorant that statement is.

But claiming to be a "gay Christian" is like a nude eskimo.

Why? So you are biologically attracted to members of your same gender, and you think that Christ was the messiah. Why is it so hard to believe that both can exist in the same person.

Maybe not "Christian" in the sense of people like gary. But then again, I don't see him as a REAL Christian.

fxashun · 10-21-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigerwiccan

Why? So you are biologically attracted to members of your same gender, and you think that Christ was the messiah. Why is it so hard to believe that both can exist in the same person.

Thinking that Christ is the messiah is hardly the only requirement that most Christians use to define themselves.

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Maybe not "Christian" in the sense of people like gary. But then again, I don't see him as a REAL Christian.

Well you see here why you agree with me in that simply believing in Christ is all that it takes to be a true "Christian".

tristanrobin · 10-21-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fxashun

Thinking that Christ is the messiah is hardly the only requirement that most Christians use to define themselves.

It is the ONLY requirement to be a Christian.

Everything else is dogma and doctrine.

fxashun · 10-21-2008, 10:22 AM

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It is the ONLY requirement to be a Christian.

Everything else is dogma and doctrine.

Not really, you can believe in Christ and not be a Christian. Being a Christian means you adhere to the teachings too Mr. Definition police. Maybe you ought to show me where ONLY believing in Christ your saviour is all that required of Christians without the following "his word" being a factor. Seems to me there are at least a couple of other members here that would take umbrage to that assertion.