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Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman.

View Poll Results: Do you believe gays have equality under the law?
Gays do not have equality. Gays and straights are not treated equally under the law. 16 64.00%
Gays have equality on the marriage issue, but not on gay adoption or gays in the military. 0 0%
Gays currently have equality. The law treats gays and straights the same. 9 36.00%
Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-09-2006, 04:21 PM   #161 (permalink)
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It is not natural. It is abnormal behavior. Deal with it.
It's found in NUMEROUS species in nature.
And you insist on claiming it's not natural.
It is FOUND IN NATURE.
Of course it's natural...
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Old 11-09-2006, 04:28 PM   #162 (permalink)
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It's found in NUMEROUS species in nature.
And you insist on claiming it's not natural.
It is FOUND IN NATURE.
Of course it's natural...
No, it is not 'natural'. First off, animals such as dogs mount sofas, trees, and even your the leg. This is not homosexual behavior but is actually auto-eroticism. Second, the only way one could show this behavior was homosexual is if one could demonstrate that the animal was desiring the male gender of the animal he was mounting. One can't conclude from the observed activity alone that any animal has homosexual desires. This is just another example of a hasty judgment. Third, animals either in playful antics, stressful conditions such as captivity, or in dominance behavior to assert hierarchy engage in perceived homosexual behavior. Male animals mount other males in a a very powerful way to communicate a higher position in the "pecking order". Fourth, every time you bring a female which is in heat into a situation, suddenly the male-male behavior is abandoned in favor of the female.





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Old 11-09-2006, 04:39 PM   #163 (permalink)
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No, it is not 'natural'. First off, animals such as dogs mount sofas, trees, and even your the leg. This is not homosexual behavior but is actually auto-eroticism.
I'm not talking about casual humping.
I'm talking about dedicated homosexual behavior, with no heterosexual behavior present in the animal. Found in numerous species.


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Second, the only way one could show this behavior was homosexual is if one could demonstrate that the animal was desiring the male gender of the animal he was mounting. One can't conclude from the observed activity alone that any animal has homosexual desires. This is just another example of a hasty judgment.
You speak without having a clue as to what I'm talking about.
If we watch the behavior of an animal, or a person even, and all he does is homosexual behavior with no heterosexual behavior present, then we do know.
Whether or not you want to admit that is irrelevant. We DO know.


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Third, animals either in playful antics, stressful conditions such as captivity, or in dominance behavior to assert hierarchy engage in perceived homosexual behavior. Male animals mount other males in a a very powerful way to communicate a higher position in the "pecking order".
I completely acknowledge the reality of this.
This phenomenon is not what I'm talking about when I talk about gay animals.


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Fourth, every time you bring a female which is in heat into a situation, suddenly the male-male behavior is abandoned in favor of the female.
And this is where jaaaman pulls his usual trick of speaking out his ass, and making things up as to how he THINKS the world works but he doesn't actually have a clue.
His reply is full of strawman arguments and little more.


Please. Educate yourself.
The Natural "Crime Against Nature": Homosexual Behaviors In Animals
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It's found in NUMEROUS species in nature.
And you insist on claiming it's not natural.
It is FOUND IN NATURE.
Of course it's natural...
So you agree that homos are on the same level as animals. I agree with that.
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So you agree that homos are on the same level as animals. I agree with that.
Wow, when was the last time I heard that?

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Old 11-09-2006, 07:30 PM   #166 (permalink)
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So you agree that homos are on the same level as animals. I agree with that.
Invariably, when this whole (anti-gay):"Homosexuality is unnatural", (pro-gay):"Homosexuality is natural as found in numerous species in nature" exchange takes place, some idiot pipes up and makes this stupid comment.

You start out by saying it's not "natural".
And then when we point out it is natural, you pipe up and say that "homos are on the same level as animals".

YOU were the idiot who was trying to condemn gays because we "weren't on the same level as animals" by saying being gay wasn't natural.

The same response could be laid against you.


And just to say it, your above allegation is not what I was saying.
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:37 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Wow, when was the last time I heard that?

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Ohhh yeeaahhh....I remember....

I didn't say it, foundit said it. I just agreed with him. You're out of focus again.
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Invariably, when this whole (anti-gay):"Homosexuality is unnatural", (pro-gay):"Homosexuality is natural as found in numerous species in nature" exchange takes place, some idiot pipes up and makes this stupid comment.

You start out by saying it's not "natural".
And then when we point out it is natural, you pipe up and say that "homos are on the same level as animals".

YOU were the idiot who was trying to condemn gays because we "weren't on the same level as animals" by saying being gay wasn't natural.

The same response could be laid against you.


And just to say it, your above allegation is not what I was saying.
You are the one who said it was found throughout nature. I just agreed with you. Do you wish to retract your statement now? Are you confused? Which is it. Are you no better than animals or not?
Old 11-09-2006, 07:43 PM   #169 (permalink)
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You are the one who said it was found throughout nature. I just agreed with you. Do you wish to retract your statement now? Are you confused? Which is it. Are you no better than animals or not?
Are you mind-bogglingly stupid?
HETEROSEXUALITY is found throughout nature too, correct?

So does that mean that straights are on the same level as animals also?

Are you confused? Or just a complete moron, with all your moron parts installed, and even a couple of optional moron upgrades...
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Are you mind-bogglingly stupid?
HETEROSEXUALITY is found throughout nature too, correct?

So does that mean that straights are on the same level as animals also?

Are you confused? Or just a complete moron, with all your moron parts installed, and even a couple of optional moron upgrades...
I aint the one who used nature to back up my point. You did. I am better than an animal and don't use animals to prove my life is normal. You did.
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