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Old 01-04-2007, 10:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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That man is entitled to his opinion. That does not make it fact. The people who used to be homos and are now living as heteros are proof that reparative therapy works. You may call them "hypnotized" or "brainwashed" and that is your opinion. It's just typical of the homo propaganda and hatred when your belief system is challenged.
"You're ignorant". "You're a bigot". "You're a nazi". Who in the hell are you to walk around judging people whether they are happy or not or homo if they say they are not?

Live and let live. Don't you believe in that? Don't you have an open mind? Aren't you for diversity?

The fact is people are living free of homosexuality and you don't like it because it challenges your "FACTS" and belief system. Too damn bad. Grow up.

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Old 01-04-2007, 11:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
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That is your opinion that they are brainwashed and hypnotized. You have an opinion. The FACT they are living and breathing have spoken about it is the proof. All you have is sour grapes. Those are not FACTS.

There are a lot of people who have stopped drinking and doing drugs also because of therapy and then there are some who have not taken therapy or have and didn't change. That does not change the FACT that there are people who have stopped drinking and drugging. I know you don't want to accept that because it threatens you and challenges your belief system, but the FACT is they say they are happier and enjoying a much better life.

I think you can see now after a few days here that I am far from the ignorant stupid bigot you tried to label me. I am at least as intelligent and literate as you are. That is also a FACT.
There are people who have changed, but remember, they are not the majority. Hell, the only thing that reparative therapy does is further confuse people.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:02 PM   #33 (permalink)
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There are people who have changed, but remember, they are not the majority. Hell, the only thing that reparative therapy does is further confuse people.
...in your opinion.


If alcohol rehab only cures 25% of the people who go through it, is it failure?
Old 01-04-2007, 11:06 PM   #34 (permalink)
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That man is entitled to his opinion.
Translation?
Somebody put up a research article that demonstrates the facts we are talking about, and Alias cannot counter it because he has no facts of his own...
... therefore he calls it "opinion" and ignores it.


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The people who used to be homos and are now living as heteros are proof that reparative therapy works.
1) By that logic: The people who were gay, underwent reparative therapy, and are STILL gay are proof that reparative therapy doesn't work.

2) One thing you'll see Alias avoid like the plague is the fact of HOW WELL it supposedly works.
HOW OFTEN does it not work?
HOW OFTEN is somebody harmed by reparative therapy?
HOW OFTEN do the people who work in these "reparative therapy" places have ABSOLUTELY NO psychology education?


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You may call them "hypnotized" or "brainwashed" and that is your opinion. It's just typical of the homo propaganda and hatred when your belief system is challenged.
And alias would NEVER stoop to "hatred"...
< end sarcasm >


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"You're ignorant". "You're a bigot". "You're a nazi".
Here comes the WAAAA-MBULANCE...
And in a few posts, he'll be issuing his own slurs and ignoring the fact that he just complained about them...


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Who in the hell are you to walk around judging people whether they are happy or not or homo if they say they are not?
Who the hell are you to ignore the fact that the VAST MAJORITY of people who attempt reparative therapy CANNOT CHANGE???
ALL the independent research has proven that.


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Live and let live. Don't you believe in that? Don't you have an open mind? Aren't you for diversity?
Funny how you tout that for YOUR side, ESPECIALLY considering NOBODY is saying "live and let live" shouldn't happen.
Is somebody saying that reparative therapy should be illegal?
Is somebody saying that the ex-gays should be discriminated against?

You ask for "live and let live", yet you're a flaming hypocrite when you clearly won't extend the same towards others.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:07 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I think you can see now after a few days here that I am far from the ignorant stupid bigot you tried to label me. I am at least as intelligent and literate as you are. That is also a FACT.


mmm hmmm
Old 01-04-2007, 11:09 PM   #36 (permalink)
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The fact is people are living free of homosexuality and you don't like it because it challenges your "FACTS" and belief system. Too damn bad. Grow up.
a.) get the statistics. do the legwork. see how many people enter this "therapy" - and how many succeed.

b.) after getting the statistics, and reading the harm done to the non-success stories, decide if those are odds you would take with your granddaughter's health if they were offered by a surgeon.
Old 01-04-2007, 11:12 PM   #37 (permalink)
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That man is entitled to his opinion. That does not make it fact.
That man who is offering his OPINION is the RESEARCHER that the gay hate organizations use as their study statistics!!

The man who DID THE STUDY AND RESEARCH, the man they gay hate groups cite, is the man who says THEY ARE LYING ABOUT HIS RESULTS AND WHAT THEY MEAN.

That's NOT an 'opinion.'

That's the FACTS. The FACTS from the proverbial horse's mouth.
Old 01-04-2007, 11:13 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Here comes the WAAAA-MBULANCE...
And in a few posts, he'll be issuing his own slurs and ignoring the fact that he just complained about them..
Has he EVER posted a message that didn't have the "homo" this and the "homo" that slur in it?

He's a hypocritical coward.
Old 01-04-2007, 11:25 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Has he EVER posted a message that didn't have the "homo" this and the "homo" that slur in it?
He's a hypocritical coward.
He claims he "knows" gay people, and over and over again I've asked him if he tells the "gay people" that he "knows" the things he says on this message board.
Over and over again, he cowers from those simple questions.

It seems obvious that either he is lying about his claim of "knowing" gay people, or else he hides his real opinion from the gay people he knows.
Either implication is pretty negative...
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:36 PM   #40 (permalink)
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well, yeah

but that's because his Bible only talks about homos

it doesn't say anything about honesty or integrity

he has a very special Bible of his very own
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