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Old 03-22-2007, 02:00 PM   #11 (permalink)
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So far as I can see Kathy Sarris' comments amount to: I really don;t like the organization he is associating with and I don't like that a popular public figure is supporting them because it makes my job harder. Fair enough I suppose, but the way she worded her concern is disingenuous.
Why?
Because what she actually said in no way resembled what you said she said?



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Why wouldn't someone in the public eye wish to openly support and forward an organization that shares their politics?
From her statement, if you take it as exactly what she said, she seems to think: "...I would think he would want to stay out of the political arena..."

If he doesn't have any reservations about entering the political arena, then her statement demonstrates either she doesn't know what she is talking about, or that she has an ulterior motive for her comments.

I don't know anything about him.
Can you think of any reason why Coach Dungy might want to stay out of the political arena?
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Idiots. So now the "We Demand Special Treatment" homosexuals are screaming about the fact that Tony Dungy was invited to speak at a Pro-Family fund-raising banquet...

So, how long will it be before homosexuals demand legislation that denies freedom of speech and freedom of expression?

Let Tony Dungy speak where he wants to speak, be part of whatever organization he wants to be part of, and say what he wants to say!


Idiots...

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I think a post which both begins and ends with the word "idiots" is bound to result in disagreement. This is because the reader believes that you're just looking for another excuse to call people idiots.

In fact, I feel that your post is very overdramatized:

You used the word "screaming", when obviously no screaming was taking place. Also, you are predicting the worst: that people will try to ban free association and freedom of speech. Obviously no one is trying to create such a ban.

Removing all of the extra drama, all we've got is, "gay rights groups are disappointed in Dungy." Is that a big deal? I'm disappointed in Dungy too. I am very sad when someone supports a cause I believe to be evil and harmful. Is that a problem? Should gay rights supporters not be disappointed?
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think a post which both begins and ends with the word "idiots" is bound to result in disagreement. This is because the reader believes that you're just looking for another excuse to call people idiots.

In fact, I feel that your post is very overdramatized:

You used the word "screaming", when obviously no screaming was taking place. Also, you are predicting the worst: that people will try to ban free association and freedom of speech. Obviously no one is trying to create such a ban.

Removing all of the extra drama, all we've got is, "gay rights groups are disappointed in Dungy." Is that a big deal? I'm disappointed in Dungy too. I am very sad when someone supports a cause I believe to be evil and harmful. Is that a problem? Should gay rights supporters not be disappointed?
To you and all your ignorant gay friends, one word: READ

Gay Opinion Blog: Tony Dungy, The Same God You Honor Made Gay People, Too
Dungy raising money for anti-gay organization - Outsports.com
Rod 2.0:Beta: Why Is Tony Dungy Endorsing Anti-Gay Fundamentalists?
Gay-rights groups upset with Dungy | IndyStar.com
BeyondChron: San Francisco's Alternative Online Daily News » Colts Dungy Promotes Anti-Gay Agenda


And on cue - the gays on this site are up in arms about it all.

What a bunch of pathetic crybabies!
Old 03-22-2007, 02:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Look beyond Kathy Sarris' fairly intelligent response. Look at the screaming, crying and hype behind the Indiana GLBT idiots. Look at the gay activisists.
Check into all the screaming and yelling they've been doing.
Then we can come back and talk about a "reasonable" response by homosexuals.
Exactly WHAT are we supposed to be looking at?

All I have seen here is Kathy's statement, and then you jumping up and down claiming that "gay activisists (sic)" are doing something.

Can you show us WHERE the gay activists are supposedly doing what you claim?


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You homosexuals want the other 99% of society to stay out of your bedrooms?
Then why not keep your bedrooms out of everybody else's faces?
I do that to the same degree that the straight people do, if not more.
How do I keep my bedroom in your or anybody else's face?

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It isn't Kathy Sarris that's the screaming, raging, homosexual lunatic here. You can try to deny it, but gay-rights activists are frothing at the mouth over this.
WHO???
WHERE???


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And you, of course, defend their idiocy because you are gay.
How can I be defending something I HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN SHOWN YET???
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:15 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Read the links provided FoundIt. You and your gay friends are a disgrace.

Leave Dungy alone. Let him go where he wants to go and say what he wants to say.
Old 03-22-2007, 02:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
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To you and all your ignorant gay friends, one word: READ
There is a lesson here that I am laughing at right now, and I know Jefferson will never get it, nor will he admit it...

Jefferson?
YOU are more fixated on what gays say than we are...

YOU pay more attention to what gays say than we do...

Quite frankly, I hadn't even heard of this story before you brought it to our attention. And after reading it, I'm still not sure why I should care...

I don't know who Dungy is, nor do I know why his opinion should matter to me.


On the other hand YOU, Jefferson, obviously have been putting some time into reading gay bloggers for their opinions.


Regarding the bloggers and the articles, they have as much of a first amendment right to criticize Dungy as he has a right to say what he wants to say.
You talk about "leaving Dungy alone", yet no criticism is ever made from you towards people who won't "leave gays alone" by talking about them over and over and over again...
Probably because you are one of those people.


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Read the links provided FoundIt. You and your gay friends are a disgrace.
What the hell have I actually done?
I mean, other than the fact that I am gay, and thus guilty by association for whatever other gay person does...

What the hell have I actually done Jefferson?


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Leave Dungy alone. Let him go where he wants to go and say what he wants to say.
If all the people are doing is TALKING about Dungy, then quite frankly your gripe is stupid.
You are just as guilty in your criticism of them as they are in their criticism of Dungy. Guilty of whatever non-existent crime you think they are guilty of.
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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There is a lesson here that I am laughing at right now, and I know Jefferson will never get it, nor will he admit it...

Jefferson?
YOU are more fixated on what gays say than we are...

YOU pay more attention to what gays say than we do...

Quite frankly, I hadn't even heard of this story before you brought it to our attention. And after reading it, I'm still not sure why I should care...

I don't know who Dungy is, nor do I know why his opinion should matter to me.


On the other hand YOU, Jefferson, obviously have been putting some time into reading gay bloggers for their opinions.


Regarding the bloggers and the articles, they have as much of a first amendment right to criticize Dungy as he has a right to say what he wants to say.
You talk about "leaving Dungy alone", yet no criticism is ever made from you towards people who won't "leave gays alone" by talking about them over and over and over again...
Probably because you are one of those people.



What the hell have I actually done?
I mean, other than the fact that I am gay, and thus guilty by association for whatever other gay person does...

What the hell have I actually done Jefferson?



If all the people are doing is TALKING about Dungy, then quite frankly your gripe is stupid.
You are just as guilty in your criticism of them as they are in their criticism of Dungy. Guilty of whatever non-existent crime you think they are guilty of.
Your gay friends are making asses of themselves by trying to silence anybody who isn't FOR giving homosexuals special treatment.

And all you can do is defend them.


Hey - that's just like it is on DTT - the newest Internet Gay Chat Room!
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Read the links provided FoundIt. You and your gay friends are a disgrace.

Leave Dungy alone. Let him go where he wants to go and say what he wants to say.

Who the F is stopping him from doing anything?
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Who the F is stopping him from doing anything?
Why the F do all your gay friends even CARE what Tony Dungy is doing?

Why not advise them to take a giant STFU Pill?
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Why the F do all your gay friends even CARE what Tony Dungy is doing?

Why not advise them to take a giant STFU Pill?
Because we believe his antigay stance is wrong just as he believes our progay stance is wrong. And guess what jeffey we both have the Right to Freedom of Speech.
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