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Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Old 03-27-2007, 09:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If you really love a child you will want that child to be raised by both a mother and a father and NOT two homosexuals, who would be considered by many to be immoral
Considering you can show no detriment to the child in being raised by homosexuals, it boils down to you being selfish in your desire to keep kids away from parents that you don't "morally" approve of.

You would rather have kids be orphans instead of going to loving homosexual homes. You would rather have the kids be orphans than know a loving mother or father who happens to be gay.

That's pretty damn selfish of you...
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You love playing these ridiculous semantical games and running around in ever-decreasing circles for hours on end!
If by that you mean I reply to you, then you are wrong.
I don't "love" talking to your circular thoughts.
It's a something I do to fight boredom.


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Defects such as homosexuality are no more normal than dwarfism, blindness, dyslexia or diabetes. The fact that they exist does not alter the fact that they are no more than examples of how the human body and mind sometimes function incorrectly.
You keep trying to compare homosexuality to dysfunctions, but then you completely fail to back up your false analogy.
Dwarves are limited in many PHYSICAL ways.
Blindness is a PHYSICAL incapability to see.
Diabetes? Physical impairment.
Dyslexia? An impairment that prevents people from reading properly.

Homosexuality is not a defect. Gays can reproduce just as good as straights can.
The only means by which you label it as a "defect" is when you assume that people have to have an attraction for the opposite gender. And make no mistake, it is an assumption. It is an assumption rejected by the medical and scientific community.
Being attracted to the same gender IN NO WAY inhibits our lives.


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And you have still not explained how allegedly homosexual people allegedly have children yet are still homosexual!
I don't recall you ever asking until just now.
And I am awe-struck that you would ask such an inane question.

Gays can reproduce just fine. Our bait and tackle work just as well as heterosexuals do.
I have no idea why you would think that having children would suddenly make a "homosexual" not a homosexual. Homosexuality speaks to SEXUAL ATTRACTION to people of the same gender.
That doesn't mean anything about capability to procreate.


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Thank you for finally agreeing on the differences between heterosexuals and homosexuals
Now you will understand why the government has a legitimate state interest in encouraging marriages of the former, but not of the latter
1) "finally agreeing"? If you only had the capacity to comprehend that I never changed my position on the subject.
You just finally got what I have been saying all along for years, which is actually pretty damn sad...

2) Actually, what I said clearly showed that the government HAS NO NEED to encourage the "former".
And since no aspect of marriage rights "encourages" procreation, your argument is obviously inaccurate.

No aspect of marriage is enhanced if a child is present (or procreated).
No aspect of marriage is diminished if a child is not present (or not procreated).
There are over 1,000 rights and privileges associated with marriage. NONE of them include any "encouragement" for the married couple to procreate or have a child. Not a single damn one of them.

It's pretty deceitful to try and pretend marriage is about "procreation" when there is no real part of it that has ANY encouragement for "procreation".
"(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish."
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:18 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Gays can reproduce just fine. Our bait and tackle work just as well as heterosexuals do.
I have no idea why you would think that having children would suddenly make a "homosexual" not a homosexual. Homosexuality speaks to SEXUAL ATTRACTION to people of the same gender.
That doesn't mean anything about capability to procreate.

Don't be ridiculous . Of course it does!

If you aren't attracted to someone of the opposite sex then you have a defect. And you aren't going to procreate.

Unless you temporarily decide to abandon your homosexual decision
Old 03-27-2007, 09:23 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Don't be ridiculous . Of course it does!

If you aren't attracted to someone of the opposite sex then you have a defect. And you aren't going to procreate.

Unless you temporarily decide to abandon your homosexual decision

I know people who think one is defective if they are not attracted to large breasts.
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If you aren't attracted to someone of the opposite sex then you have a defect.
That's only a "gays are icky" argument. Being gay is neither defective, immoral or illegal.
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I know people who think one is defective if they are not attracted to large breasts.
Some like them big, some like them small, and some don't like them at all. There is no "normal" preference.
Old 03-27-2007, 09:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Don't be ridiculous . Of course it does!
And still, you completely FAIL to show any reason why...
I mean, we point out that there are over 2 million kids with gay parents, and the fact that means with regards to gays being able to procreate doesn't even penetrate your comprehension.

Sexual ATTRACTION does not mean anything regarding PROCREATION capability.


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If you aren't attracted to someone of the opposite sex then you have a defect. And you aren't going to procreate.
2 million kids say you're wrong.
Gays can and do procreate.

And you call it a "defect", but each time the debate as to WHY you call it a "defect" comes up you inevitably tuck tail and run...


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Unless you temporarily decide to abandon your homosexual decision
Again, you cannot comprehend the difference between ATTRACTION and PROCREATION.
I have no attraction to my hand, but I still masturbate with it.
Just because somebody can get off with somebody or something doesn't mean there is any real sexual attraction there.
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