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Old 03-29-2007, 10:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Couple: Hotel Wouldn't Rent to Us Because We're Gay
Sumter) - A gay couple looking to rent a hotel room say they were turned away because of their sexuality.

"She wasn't discreet about it," said Jason Pickel, referring to a hotel employee. "She was not apologetic. She just said, 'We do not rent to gay people.'"

For the past two and a half years, Pickel and Darren Black Bear have been in a committed relationship. During a search for a temporary home, the couple says it went to Affordable Suites of America, a long-term stay hotel located on Gion Street in Sumter.

"We were inquiring about the price, deposits, extra person fee, and she asked who the room was going to be for, and I said for my partner and I,” Pickel said. “She said, 'Oh we don't rent to multiple people of the same sex.' I said, so you don't rent to gay couples? She said, 'No, we don't rent to gay people at all.'"

The website for Affordable Suites of America states the company does not allow children or pets in its suites, but there is no mention of same sex couples.

News19 contacted the hotel, posing as a potential renter, and inquired about two men staying in the same room. The receptionist who answered the phone told us the following: “Our policy is we don’t rent to two people of the same sex if we only have one bed.” “Is that your policy,” we asked. “That’s corporate policy because they only have one sleeping area.” We then asked, “Okay, but they can't share the bed?” "I suppose they could, but most men don’t want to," she said.

However, when News19 called the owner of the hotel, Carroll Atkisson, he says there had been some confusion. He says any couple can come to the place and they will rent to them, period. Atkisson says the policy was not mean to target homosexuals. He says they were just trying to stop two single people from being in the same bed.

Pickel and Black Bear say they still plan to seek legal action. "Everyone is floored, shocked and outraged," said Pickel. "We have contacted some of our friends who are activists."

Currently, there is no state law preventing a hotel from refusing service to a same-sex couple. However, it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of race, creed, color, national origin, gender, disability, or marital status.

"If they have a policy, it has to be maintained fair and equitably," says Tom Sponseller, President of the Hospitality Association of South Carolina. "At the beach, for example, because there are different bike weekends at the beach, that policy has to be enforced, and consistent."

There is currently a bill in the State Senate that addresses this issue. The measure, proposed by Charleston Democrat Robert Ford, would expand the Lodging Establishment Act to include prohibition of discrimination because of sexual orientation or gender identity.
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It is a businesses right to turn away any customer they so choose.
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It is a businesses right to turn away any customer they so choose.
What if they were black?
Or Christian?

Should lodging businesses have a right they currently don't have? A right to turn away black customers and Christian customers if they want to?

Or is it only for attributes that you have a personal/moral beef with?
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I think this is reprehensible.

Last year, there was a story about a gay b&b in provincetown that wouldn't rent to a straight couple.

I thought that was reprehensible, too.

And - depending on the state - businesses do NOT 'have the right' to discriminate.
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This may or may not be true, but that does not make it right. I think this is disgusting...
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What if they were black?
Or Christian?

Should lodging businesses have a right they currently don't have? A right to turn away black customers and Christian customers if they want to?

Or is it only for attributes that you have a personal/moral beef with?
Again, you are trying to draw an analogy between race and sexual behaviour.

You may not want to believe it, but most Americans consider homosexuality immoral.

BTW how come you only ever post about gay issues???
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It is a businesses right to turn away any customer they so choose.
Uh, no it isn't.

I guess you think it's okay for diners in the south to put 'White Only' on their doors?
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Again, you are trying to draw an analogy between race and sexual behaviour.
once again, for the bazillionth time, for the slow in the class.

nobody has compared sexual orientation with race.

the analogy is between the discrimination that is shown towards both.

geeesh.
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Again, you are trying to draw an analogy between race and sexual behaviour.

You may not want to believe it, but most Americans consider homosexuality immoral.

BTW how come you only ever post about gay issues???
What does what someone considers 'immoral' have to do with anything?

Because a KKK member considers a black man to be sub-human, does that make it true?
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once again, for the bazillionth time, for the slow in the class.

nobody has compared sexual orientation with race.

the analogy is between the discrimination that is shown towards both.

geeesh.
So you're saying that Americans aren't allowed to act on their moral convictions?

Should they have rented a room to an unmarried hetero couple?

Or to someone who wants to smoke in the room?

You cannot hide behind political correctness.

Race and sexual impropriety are not analogous
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