Do explain.....

If you paid attention to anything except your ego you would hear that he LOST more voters AFTER he did that.

So, if a gay man cannot adopt and a straight man can adopt, do they have the same privilege?
The answer is "NO", but you'll never admit it...


And once again, all garysher does is say "nay" with ABSOLUTELY NO EXPLANATION as to "it has nothing at all to do with that".
Because he can't...

It's funny how on one hand you claim "equality".
But on the other hand, you justify the discrimination.

It's like saying "Jews and Christians are equal. As long as Jews choose to deny Christ, we'll march them off to the gas chambers. That's *equality*!"


No. Nor have I claimed to.
But when everyone I have seen who has ever met you distances themselves from you, the trend is obvious...


Again, NO. YOU do not.
You share AN OPINION with most Americans.
Just because you share AN OPINION with most americans DOES NOT mean you represent them.

Fred Phelps is also against gay marriage.
Does that mean HE "represents the views of most Americans on this topic"???

Your need to think you have company is downright pathological!

The law in Florida says NOTHING about behavior.
It doesn't say "people who engage in homosexual behavior cannot adopt".
It says GAYS cannot adopt, with no mention of behavior.

The answer is NO.
Gays and straights DO NOT have an "equal" capability to adopt.


Try to explain how there is any difference between the two that doesn't involve you liking or wanting the "qualification", and if you don't approve of the standard it is "discrimination".

ANY discriminatory practice can be labelled as "qualification".


And there he goes again.
Blindly repeating his claim, while providing ABSOLUTELY NO explanation as to why my analogy is wrong.

It's like saying "Jews and Christians are equal. As long as Jews choose to deny Christ, we'll march them off to the gas chambers. That's *equality*!"


Why do you ask me questions that are already answered?
And then FAIL to address the answer when I gave it?

Fred Phelps is also against gay marriage.
Does that mean HE "represents the views of most Americans on this topic"???

AGAIN all you do is blindly say "nay" with NO SUBSTANTIATION of why I am wrong.
The Florida law PROHIBITS any gay man, regardless of behavior, from adopting.
If a gay man has NEVER had sex with any other men, he will still be prohibited from adopting.

The law does not prohibit ANY straight person from adopting if that person has had sex with somebody of the same gender.

Your reply is false.


A thorough non-sequitur, except to provide an example of PRECISELY what I was talking about.
You approve of this discrimination, so you label it as a "qualification".

It is STILL a discrimination. It is a JUSTIFIED discrimination with a legitimate state interest.



If you will yield that qualification and discrimination are identical, I will do precisely that.
Will you acknowledge that the two are essentially the same, and that calling something a "qualification" instead of a "discrimination" does not magically (without any justification given) mute any explanation as to WHY the discrimination is justified?


You realize that you JUST ADMITTED that gays are precluded from marriage, don't you?

You can't stop doing it, can you. You can't stop contradicting yourself.
That will happen when you insist on pretending that black is white and up is down.

If you want to run with that analogy, there is NOTHING from preventing a muslim from holding a "bar mitzvah". The government would have to recognize the muslim bar mitzvah as JUST AS LEGITIMATE as the jewish one, otherwise it would be discrimination.


So you "represent the views of most Americans" just like Phelps "represents the views of most Americans".
You and Phelps.
At least the analogy holds for how repugnant people find you...

Why do you persist in stating the blatantly false?
Is it because you are completely clueless?
Do you think lying somehow gains you something in the short term?

You are utterly and completely wrong. Florida adoption law prohibits ALL gays from adopting, whether they be single or a couple.

Florida is the only state in the nation with a complete ban on adoption by gays, whether married or single.

CNN.com - Florida adoption ban

Please. Try to educate yourself before you open your mouth to reveal yourself ignorant.


"highly unlikely"?
This only proves you have no clue what the law ACTUALLY says, and you're just guessing...


Again, I challenge you to show me a case where they are not identical.


Precisely the reason YOU want to use the term "qualification" and not "discrimination".
And quite frankly, if you see discrimination as "value-laden", that is your own problem. I don't care what connotations people see in the word.
I am talking about it in its most basic sense, devoid of any positive or negative attributes. YOU on the other hand keep fixating on the negative attributes and can't get past that...


If anybody needed proof of your absolute lunacy, then this quote is it...