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You CLAIM that you support legislation against only BEHAVIOR, but then when it turns out that Florida law prohibits ALL gays, regardless of "behavior" from adopting, you applaud. Obviously, your own claimed "position" cannot be trusted as true. You contradict it at every turn! Quote:
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It is JUSTIFIED discrimination. discrimination: the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently If we prevent blind people from driving, that IS discrimination. JUSTIFIED discrimination with a legitimate state interest. Quote:
That doesn't mean I don't care that the proper word is used if another word is going to avoid the entire subject altogether. Quote:
You want to use the word "qualification" because it ASSUMES that the discrimination is justified. I have told you that I am comfortable using the word "qualification" as long as it is not used as an attempt to ignore the 14th amendment requirements. Predictably, you avoided responding to that. "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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If a gay man DOES NOT have gay sex, what is his "behavior"? If a man has no sex at all, does that mean he is neither gay nor straight? It's so easy to get back into areas where you start pretending up is down and black is white. Where you hold definitions and views that nobody else does. Quote:
Blindly saying "nay", while giving absolutely no reason why. Like I stated, I will call it "qualify" AS LONG AS you do NOT use that as an excuse to ignore the JUSTIFICATION for preventing gay marriage. As it is, you just want to rename it so you can pretend it is justified without explaining why. Because you can't... Quote:
The fact that YOU find it "emotive" and "provocative" is your own problem. Not mine. I attach no such connotation to the word, as I repeatedly explain. Quote:
But then you COMPLETELY DROPPED the subject when it is proven that the state's claims ARE ABSURD. The state claims that preventing gay marriage will further procreation. There is ABSOLUTELY NO evidence to this claim. And at its root, it's just plain stupid. No heterosexual couple is going to say "Gays can marry? Well, I guess we won't have any kids then." Other arguments like claiming that gays are inferior parents have also been proven false. ALL the research shows that children of gays are just as happy and healthy. There is NO research contradicting this. So the question remains as to HOW a society built on "equality", and which proclaims "innocent until proven guilty", can deny equality under the ASSUMPTION (denying the existing evidence) that gays are inferior parents? "(Gay marriage) is a debate about whether you think gay people are part of the human condition or just a random fetish." -- Jon Stewart "Please don't judge others by your own standards." -- Garysher | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
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