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Old 04-25-2007, 09:35 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Luckily the Homosexuals, like blacks before them, will except nothing less than justice and equality... And thus America gets better... It's going to be a struggle, but well worth it when reason wins...
You still trying to peddle that old line about race and sexual "orientation" being comparable??

You're becoming as stubborn as old man fondit!

Homosexuals already have equality, but they keep on about wanting special rights
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Old 04-25-2007, 09:36 PM   #82 (permalink)
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You still trying to peddle that old line about race and sexual "orientation" being comparable??

You're becoming as stubborn as old man fondit!

Homosexuals already have equality, but they keep on about wanting special rights
And blacks have equality too, but they keep on about wanting special media rights too aka Imus' comment.

You want EQUAL rights then suck it up like the rest of the world, dont go calling to mommy(jackson and sharpton) when someone calls you a name!
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You still trying to peddle that old line about race and sexual "orientation" being comparable??

You're becoming as stubborn as old man fondit!

Homosexuals already have equality, but they keep on about wanting special rights
What special rights do they want???
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Old 04-25-2007, 09:43 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Luckily the Homosexuals, like blacks before them, will except nothing less than justice and equality... And thus America gets better... It's going to be a struggle, but well worth it when reason wins...

bravo

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What special rights do they want???
special media rights, see my post above yours lol
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You still trying to peddle that old line about race and sexual "orientation" being comparable??
When we talk about an analogy between racial DISCRIMINATION and sexual orientation DISCRIMINATION, you're still trying to LIE and pretend we're saying race and sexual orientation are comparable?


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You're becoming as stubborn as old man fondit!
Nahh. Too easy...


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Homosexuals already have equality, but they keep on about wanting special rights
And ANOTHER example of garysher's stupidity.

1) Can gays serve openly in the military like straights?
2) Can gays adopt in all 50 states like straights can?
3) Are gay relationships legally treated as "equal" to straight relationships?
Capable of marrying?

No. Homosexuals do not have equality.
And it's a stupid lie to pretend we do...
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:06 PM   #87 (permalink)
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You still trying to peddle that old line about race and sexual "orientation" being comparable??

You're becoming as stubborn as old man fondit!

Homosexuals already have equality, but they keep on about wanting special rights
The situations are very similar. "Special rights," "tradition," and "sanctity of marriage." have all been used by those opposing civil rights for blacks. Both involved judicial activism as crucial catalysts against divided populaces, most of which had no logical arguments except the simplest veils for prejudice. And let's not forget biblical justification...
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When we talk about an analogy between racial DISCRIMINATION and sexual orientation DISCRIMINATION, you're still trying to LIE and pretend we're saying race and sexual orientation are comparable?

>>>>>>>

If they are NOT comparable then why do you try to draw analogies between them?

Simply because you know racial imagery is highly emotive and likely to draw a sympathetic response







Nahh. Too eash...



And ANOTHER example of garysher's stupidity.

1) Can gays serve openly in the military like straights?
2) Can gays adopt in all 50 states like straights can?
3) Are gay relationships legally treated as "equal" to straight relationships?
Capable of marrying?

No. Homosexuals do not have equality.
And it's a stupid lie to pretend we do...

Nope - it's a fact:

1) Can gays serve openly in the military like straights?
>> If they don't tell yes they can. However, people who fall outside of the stringent height/weight/age qualifications cannot. BTW serving in the military is NOT a right.



2) Can gays adopt in all 50 states like straights can?
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Nope, nor should they be able to. Can a gay couple provide a child with both a Mummy and a Daddy?






3) Are gay relationships legally treated as "equal" to straight relationships? Capable of marrying?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Homosexuals are free to marry under the same criteria as everybody else. Why should they have "special rights"?


No. Homosexuals do not have equality.
And it's a stupid lie to pretend we do...

>>>>>>>>>>

Stop pouting and accusing everyone else of lying, just because you don't like truth and reality
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Nope - it's a fact:

1) Can gays serve openly in the military like straights?
>> If they don't tell yes they can. However, people who fall outside of the stringent height/weight/age qualifications cannot. BTW serving in the military is NOT a right.
Does any other group have to have a "Don't ask, don't tell" policy? No, so why gays? What's so special about them? You say "special rights" so why not have the same policy with people of minority religions, people of certain cultural groups, etc.? And don't say "to stop prejudice" because there's as much racism as homophobia in the military and nobody does anything about that.


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2) Can gays adopt in all 50 states like straights can?
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Nope, nor should they be able to. Can a gay couple provide a child with both a Mummy and a Daddy?
There's absolutely no evidence that same sex couples can't raise children as well as straight couples can. Every reputable study has come out showing no effect. One of my friends ws actually raised by a lesbian couple and she's doing perfectly fine.

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Homosexuals are free to marry under the same criteria as everybody else. Why should they have "special rights"?
Do I have to reiterate for the billionth time? A gay man marries a straight woman. He is not happy. A gay man marries nobody. He is not happy. A gay man marries another gay man. he is happy. Thus, equality.
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If they are NOT comparable then why do you try to draw analogies between them?
Are you really this stupid in real life?
The ANALOGIES I am drawing are between the DISCRIMINATION of sexual orientation and the DISCRIMINATION of race.
THOSE ARE analogous.

How many times does this have to be explained to you?
I mean, I get the fact that you don't like the race / sexual orientation analogy. I understand fully what your responses are. I don't agree, but I comprehend the words you type.
But you haven't a clue as to what I am saying. You don't remember anything. It's like you're suffering from memory loss each time you post.


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Simply because you know racial imagery is highly emotive and likely to draw a sympathetic response
Again, a pathetic lie.
"Emotion" has nothing to do with this.


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Nope - it's a fact:
1) Can gays serve openly in the military like straights?
>> If they don't tell yes they can. However, people who fall outside of the stringent height/weight/age qualifications cannot. BTW serving in the military is NOT a right.
You stated: "Homosexuals already have equality..."
You didn't specify "equal rights".

Second, a straight person can say "I am straight".
A gay person cannot say "I am gay".
And you call that equality?

Thirdly, you're doing PRECISELY what I knew you would do.
You start by making the obvious lie that gays and straights "have equality".
Then you turn around and you JUSTIFY the discrimination, or you try to obfuscate the issue by calling it a "qualification".

If a person who is 180# can join the military, and a person who is 380# is forbidden, that is not "equality".


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2) Can gays adopt in all 50 states like straights can?
>>>>>>>
Nope, nor should they be able to. Can a gay couple provide a child with both a Mummy and a Daddy?
So you're admitting that you were lying when you said gays and straights had equality?
And now you're back-peddling to a position of just supporting the discrimination?

You've done that every single time you try to claim that gays and straights are treated equally...


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3) Are gay relationships legally treated as "equal" to straight relationships? Capable of marrying?
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Homosexuals are free to marry under the same criteria as everybody else. Why should they have "special rights"?
1) It's hilarious how the current situation caters EXCLUSIVELY to heterosexuals, but it is the homosexuals who are questioned regarding "special rights".
It is straights who currently have the "special right" to marry in the exclusive heterosexual manner.
Your argument would be like having a law that allows only the worship of Christianity, and then saying it's a "special right" for a Jewish person to want to worship Judaism.

2) Again, the constitution doesn't say "same criteria".
It says EQUAL RIGHTS.
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