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Gay Marriage Debate and defend your political beliefs as to whether or not marriage should be only defined as a union between a man and a woman.

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Old 04-26-2007, 09:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Simple

A same sex couple = 2 men or 2 women

A mixed-sex couple = one man and one woman

Which coincidentally is what it takes to produce new life in the form of a baby

But you knew that so why did you ask?
So by your definition, a marriage is for the sake of having a child, not for love?
Should infertile people be banned from marriage as well?
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Simple
A same sex couple = 2 men or 2 women
A mixed-sex couple = one man and one woman
Ergo, it's gender discrimination.
If the difference is gender, and one form is allowed based on gender, and the other is prohibited based on gender, it is GENDER DISCRIMINATION.

And as we keep pointing out, but you continue to ignore, it does not matter if two things are different.
A jew is different from a christian.
But the law still treats them the same.


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Which coincidentally is what it takes to produce new life in the form of a baby
That would be relevant if procreative capability were a requirement for marriage, but it's not.

This is just another attempt to work "literacy" in the issue when the real emphasis that is desired is "anti-black".


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So by your definition, a marriage is for the sake of having a child, not for love?
That's what I love about people who argue about "damaging marriage".
In the end, their rush to turn to requirements which have nothing to do with the fundamentals of marriage demonstrate PRECISELY a desire to "damage" marriage.

Love is irrelevant.
Being able to have a baby is tantamount.
And THAT is the "sacredness" of it all...
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:32 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Ergo, it's gender discrimination.
If the difference is gender, and one form is allowed based on gender, and the other is prohibited based on gender, it is GENDER DISCRIMINATION.

>>>>>>>>>>

Why do you always want to describe anything you don't approve of as "DISCRIMINATION"?

Men and woman are different - it's just the way God made us! IT has nothing to do with DISCRIMINATION!

When will you get that through your skull??






And as we keep pointing out, but you continue to ignore, it does not matter if two things are different.

>>>>>

As WE keep pointing out - yes it does, when it comes to marriage and many other social institutions.

Otherwise polygamy and prostitution would not be illegal


A jew is different from a christian.
But the law still treats them the same.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Providing they conform to the same rules, as per marriage



That's what I love about people who argue about "damaging marriage".
In the end, their rush to turn to requirements which have nothing to do with the fundamentals of marriage demonstrate PRECISELY a desire to "damage" marriage.
>>>>>>>>>>

What?




Love is irrelevant.
Being able to have a baby is tantamount.
And THAT is the "sacredness" of it all...
I could not disagree more

Love between husband and wife is vitally important to the success of a marriage. Especially if they decide to have a family.

But love is not the only pre-requisite for marriage

For example, you may love your sister, but that doesn't qualify you to marry her.

And so another one of your cuddly-feely generalisations gets shot down
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Geez, what is up with gary's homophobia.....

Tad, I agree with you wholeheartedly on your post against gary with marriage is ONLY about producing and not love so infertale people should be banned.

And Jax I agree with your points aswell. Well put.
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Geez, what is up with gary's homophobia.....
Do you always use slurs against people who have the moral fortitude to take a stance?
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I could not disagree more

Love between husband and wife is vitally important to the success of a marriage. Especially if they decide to have a family.

But love is not the only pre-requisite for marriage

For example, you may love your sister, but that doesn't qualify you to marry her.

And so another one of your cuddly-feely generalisations gets shot down

Ok, what about arranged marriages over in India and other places where their culture abided by those rules? The men and women there dont especially LOVE eachother as man and wife but still have a family and their lives are a success in their eyes.

And Gary, if you just said that love is not the only pre-requisite for marriage then what was the point of stating the first paragraph about how a marriage's success is based on the LOVE of the husband and wife. Your second phrase just negated your first paragraph completely.
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Do you always use slurs against people who have the moral fortitude to take a stance?
He didn't use slurs against us... He used slurs against you, the person who does not have the cojones to do what's right!
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Do you always use slurs against people who have the moral fortitude to take a stance?
its not a slur, its a condition. Which to alot of people on this forum think you have due to your complete "outrage" you have against same-sex marriage.
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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its not a slur, its a condition. Which to alot of people on this forum think you have due to your complete "outrage" you have against same-sex marriage.
He's a textbook homophobic all the way down to his denial...
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Ok, what about arranged marriages over in India and other places where their culture abided by those rules? The men and women there dont especially LOVE eachother as man and wife but still have a family and their lives are a success in their eyes.

>>>>>>>>>>

I was referring to western cultures such as the US




And Gary, if you just said that love is not the only pre-requisite for marriage then what was the point of stating the first paragraph about how a marriage's success is based on the LOVE of the husband and wife. Your second phrase just negated your first paragraph completely.
How???

Try READING my post before replying this time
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