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| It's not your right to blatantly be offensive... You aren't making statements based on reason or facts, you are hate mongering, and in the process making for a less comfortable experience for the rest of our users. Fight the good fight, and die with the enemy's heart in your hand. http://www.armysailor.com http://www.tadpolenet.com/techblog ------------------------------------ Check out my latest addition to the blogosphere Quixotic Journey | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Exercise those rights, then, but recognize that I have every right to do so as well. The only limit is the point when free speech crosses the line and gets to the point where the tangible harmfulness of the statement is too much to justify the right. You definitely cross that line. "Every time I hear the phrase 'Christian nation' I run to my car and blast a Slayer album at full volume." - Me | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Apart from that: "Words mean things." Rush Limbaugh There's no point in quibbling. What is supernatural, and what is natural are two different, mutually exclusive things. Anything that is one can NOT possibly be the other. When Jefferson (no reckless wordsmith he*) says "Nature's God", and not "Supernatural god", I'm willing to take him at his word. But ignore the wording, and its literal meaning if you wish. "... go ahead and perceive as you choose." * The elder Statesman of the U.S. Revolution was, in my opinion, Benjamin Franklin. He proved himself a superbly masterful writer & publisher; somewhat the Ted Turner of his time. Benjamin Franklin was Thomas Jefferson's editor, when Jefferson wrote the DOI. Considering these historical facts, I believe we can conclude the term "Nature's God" was not casual, or uncontemplated. If Jefferson intended to say "supernatural" he would have. He didn't. Is there any reason to think he expressed himself self-contradictingly here? "Work is the curse of the drinking classes." Oscar Wilde | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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"For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests". Alexander Hamilton, 1787 (After the Constitutional Convention) "An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun. It is dangerous to your life and health". Planned Parenthood, 1963 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| There Is No Such Thing As "separation Of Church And State" "For my own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests". Alexander Hamilton, 1787 (After the Constitutional Convention) "An abortion kills the life of a baby after it has begun. It is dangerous to your life and health". Planned Parenthood, 1963 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Those exact words are not used, but it is stated that no religion should be held preferrable to any other, and thus we have what is called a "wall of separation." If you read the Treaty of Tripoli similar words are used, and the U.S. is stated as not being a nation built upon christianity. "Every time I hear the phrase 'Christian nation' I run to my car and blast a Slayer album at full volume." - Me | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| They're certainly condoned, along with a great deal of other practices, carried out by both humans and God, which do not under any circumstances fit under the category if "moral." "Every time I hear the phrase 'Christian nation' I run to my car and blast a Slayer album at full volume." - Me | |||||||||||||||||||||
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